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1990 P Nickel - VLDS?

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 Posted 07/24/2021  1:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bogiesmokes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is a first for me, the observe showing smaller letters underneath larger letters? tried searching the forum and the only thing I could come up with was this possibly being a VLDS coin? The eye is also missing and I can't tell if the face looks bigger than normal. I also included a few pictures of the reverse, I think showing MD... Thanks for any input.


1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
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 Posted 07/24/2021  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like extreme die wear ( DDD) but on the devices thinned, maybe the outer part of the die was polished off? Leaving just to the lowest areas of the die intact on Liberty? (Just the opposite of a Grease Filled Die issue)
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 Posted 07/24/2021  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop asked me to contribute to this thread. This coin has a very interesting look to it. It all stems from die wear. The parts of the letters closer to the center of the coin show standard die wear, where the letters have expanded. The parts of the letters closer to the design rim overlap a " Ridge Ring". Here we have "design devouring die wear". The field portion of the die retreated to the level of the deepest letter recesses, where the letter is narrowest. I think it would make a good topic for a Coin World column, if you would consent to send the coin to me.
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 Posted 07/24/2021  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike.
1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
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 Posted 07/24/2021  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That *would* make for an interesting article, but it was nice to get the cliff notes version here first. Thx @mike for the analysis and @bog for posting this coin!
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 Posted 07/24/2021  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice breakdown of the issue--not to mention the 'breakdown' of the die. Good stuff.
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 Posted 07/24/2021  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bogiesmokes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the very thorough explanations, I really appreciate it. I'd be happy to send you the coin, Mike. I haven't used the private message system on this site yet, but just send me the address and I'll mail it out on Monday.

Here's the pictures of 'In God We Trust' - you can definitely see the design devouring die wear on the 'T' and 'R' (and somewhat on the 'U') in Trust.

1990-P-Nickel---VLDS?
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 Posted 07/24/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting one, I've looked at lots of nickels over the years, and I can't recall seeing one quite like that before
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 Posted 07/24/2021  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bogiesmokes, I tried to use private messaging but received the message, "This member does not wish to receive e-mails." You need to change your settings.
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 Posted 07/24/2021  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bogiesmokes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found the setting to allow emails and set it to allow emails. Sorry about that.
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 Posted 07/25/2021  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Learn something new every day thanks to this forum!! Appreciate all who are helping in this regard!
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 Posted 07/25/2021  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a LOT of die wear.
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 Posted 07/25/2021  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting thread! Thanks for sharing, @Bogiesmokes, and for the informative analysis and summary, @mikediamond and @coop.
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 Posted 08/01/2021  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've just completed my write-up on Bogiesmoke's nickel. It will appear in the online edition of Coin World this coming Saturday.
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Interesting, I was going to say this was due to "shrunken device head voodoo" but "design devouring die wear" makes more sense :)
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