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1940 1 Cent, Weak Strike In Date Or Grease Related?

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While hunting for doubled dies I usually keep the interesting coins I do come across that are not doubled to check out later, while looking at those coins I remembered I had this 1940 that has the 4 partially plugged and the 0 looks to be affected as well, my first thought when finding it was wear, but the 4 makes me think otherwise.

Wondering what everyone's opinions are about this one.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have at least 20-30 1940s if you want a comparison, looks like the 4 is worn down a lot. I'll check my 1940s tomorrow though.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing photo, even if u zoom in with my phone the image stays clear. I wish I had even half the optical you do.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like circulation flattening to me.
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Ive went through about 17 individual 1940 solid date rolls so far and its the only one that looked like this so I kept it, If you do find one I wouldent mind seeing it.

I dont think this is subject to PMD though, I feel it left the mint looking like this, the center of the 4 is fairly shallow which to me could mean a few things, the post (raised on the die) was short or the strike was weak, or the "40" was plugged with grease.

I could be wrong though, I mainly focus on doubled dies and not so much the error side.
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 Posted 08/18/2021  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I find something similar I'll post it for you,PMD comes in so many different shapes and sizes, I have a lot of 1940s. But idk what could cause a single number one a coin to he effected and after circulation damage out could be 1/100000 things. As for an error or variety I'm curious as always with my lack of knowledge lol.
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It kinda looks like the central part of the coin might be a Struck Through Grease. I see it on the zero and the branch & leaf. Milestone coming up, contest time?
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It looks partially plugged fie to me as well with mostly the 4 affected, seen very well in the middle..
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@ johnwayn007, took the best pics I could, here is several examples of the dates I have, pulled 7 from one of my rolls labeled 1940-1949. Not sure if they are the same as yours or not but here is for comparison. A lot of mine the 4 is more worn then the other numbers.




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Hope these help, if you want I have another dozen or two 1940s all over the place lol(still haven't started organizing.
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Some of them do like partially plugged but the examples I have closer to yours are very dirty and look plugged with gunk lol.
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Lol the altered and damaged 1940 I just posted has a very plugged 4 and 0 looks fine:p
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Thank you lads, I was leaning towards grease plugged aswell.

John1, you are right, my 1000 post milestone is coming up so a contest is on the agenda.
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It can't be a plugged die that fills the 'hole' of that 4. Inside the hole of the 4 is near the level of the fields, which means it would stick up on the die. Maybe the filled hole represents Die Deterioration from over polishing of the dies (this would have been before chromium plating on the dies)?

I do have examples from 1940-1945 with missing numbers (those are likely grease-plugged dies).
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I doubt I'll have anything to offer the coin community by my 1000th post, I post to much lol. Maybe I'm one here to often. Coins gave sort of become my addiction/hobby. But I'm no where near mist other members on here that are as active as I am. Hopefully that will change soon once I get done good equipment. Though unfortunately the first day I brought out my laptop in years and my rabbit ate the charging cable. Next time I get a pet it will be a dog lol, though iv grown to love this rabbit:p he decides to eat anything that gets more attention then him.
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