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Valued Member
United States
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I know back in the day we collected "fillers", is that still a thing and what grade  might this fall into/possible value?   Please be kind, I know it's bad, but ....  |
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Moderator
 United States
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 to the CCF That is indeed a valued example of our nations early coinage - appears genuine by what I can see. Know that this series is not my expertise so a true expert might come along and correct all of my judgements. Grade is somewhere along G, details damaged. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Damaged and ungradable. Specialists may find a rare variety here, but speaking personally as a long-time collector of this series, I wouldn't pay $20 for it.  to the CCF! |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If I found it in a $5 dealer's junk box, I would be tempted to look closely at it, and perhaps be tempted to buy it.
Mind you, I am a collector of World coins, not a specialist of U.S. Coins.
I am also somewhat of a coin historian rather than just a collector, so that one of the main reasons for buying it
would be this coin's relationship to early U.S. numismatic history. Outright value for me not that much, but historic value quite high for me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is a coin that I would avoid, but I can imagine a young lad would love to have this one with his allowance money. Even in this condition, you can still read most of the lettering, and the date. This Half Cent is 217 years old, and it still has the cool historical factor that history buffs (like myself) enjoy. If it did have a rarer variety, it wouldn't carry a worthy premium in this condition. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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United States
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For a beginning collector, especially a kid with limited funds to spend on coins, it would be a godsend. Can you imagine owning a coin from the time that Jefferson was president? When Louis and Clark were trying to reach The Oregon Coast, leading their expedition through the vast Louisiana Purchase? There were only 17 states in the Union in 1804! Most of the kids at school would not have believed it was possible to own such a coin. Of course it is a valuable historical artefact. Doesn't matter that it has seen a lot of use over a couple of centuries. I would have thought I had died and gone to heaven to own such a coin.
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08/20/2021 07:11 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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First, The date is clear, so it is an 1804 "plain 4" variety. On what's visible of the reverse, the last "A" in AMERICA is separated from the ribbon. That would indicate a "no stems" variety. It's clearly heavily damaged, but is still identifiable by date and variety. A straight graded AG-03 1804 plain no stems would run in the $40-50 range. A fair guesstimate for this coin would be somewhere around $12-15, maybe a couple dollars higher. I agree, it's a filler, but for a young numismatist in particular, it would be a chance to get started in the early era of U.S. coins. Frankly, at 217 years old, it's doing a lot better than I am at less than a third of that age.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The spacing of the denominator of the fraction would indicate this is the stems variety C-11. The spacing is closer on the stemless C-13.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@Phil310, I took another look after your post. You are absolutely correct. When I looked at the second "A" again, it is (or more correctly was) closer to the ribbon. It's pretty mangled.
1804 plain 4, stems it is! That moves the straight grade comparison higher. Maybe $70-85 for a straight grade. It doesn't do a lot for this coin, though. Maybe $20-ish?
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you to everyone who replied. I was sure the value would be minimal and like those who mentioned younger collectors just getting into collecting, that's what I was thinking as well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would give $10 dollars for this one, no more.
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Posted 08/19/2021 8:10 pm
