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Can anyone tell what the reverse of a 1983 cent is showing me. Is it a double die, Machine Doubling or what ? I'm trying to learn this stuff. Found this one today after 10,000 cents searched this week. Phew!
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Looks like Machine Doubling to me, lets wait for the pros.
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numismo, this is showing you a great example of Machine Doubling. Keep it for future reference.
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Machine Doubling is the closest I've come to finding a 1983 DDR also. Still looking...
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Hi,

Machine Doubling:-)

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machine/strike doubling, but keep looking.
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Machine Doubling VS DD whats the diffrence?
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Here we go again!! LOL..
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VS starts with a V, DD starts with a D. Other then that I don't know what you are asking.
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Hi,
I am sure that the question means.... Machine Doubling vs. Doubled die....What's the difference?

Machine Doubling happens when a die hops, skips, jumps, scrapes, etc. the surface of a coin as a coin is struck or ejected from a die during or just after the strike. This is a common occurrence and adds no value to the coin.


A coin struck by a doubled die is different in that the die that actually strikes the coin has details that are doubled due to problems in the process that created the die. Every coin struck will show identical doubling varying only due to the condition of the die as it is used. Many of these are rare and valuable. Some are actually common and add no value to the coin.

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Here is what the 1983P-1DR-001 should look like. There is also an image of the 1995P-1DO-001 also on this image.
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Compare the reverse doubling with the doubling on the image above and you can see the difference between Machine Doubling and a real doubled die.
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Wow, great pictures ! Nothing iffy about that doubling. Thanks coop.
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thank you very much I didnt realize that the die itself had the flaws on it I thought that they were all double struck
thats why the 84 double ear really had me scratching my head
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That is why it is nice to have an actual doubled die coin in hand to see what makes them so interesting. When first searching you find all kinds of useless stuff till you train your eye to find the die doubling that collectors like to find. Some doubled dies are strong, others are minor. Just know what you are searching for is 1/2 of the game. Also not just searching a certain year for just what has already been found, but check every coin as if you are finding a new discovery. I've found a few like that. The best is the 2002-D DDR I found.
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So far the one I found an another one is all I know of so far. More are out there, you just have to know what to look for.
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Coop, those pictures are all phenomenal!

I've mentioned this before. That 2002 D looks exactly like a 2004 D DDR that I recently found. My way of thinking says there has got to be a 2003 D that matches:-)

Use Coops pics as a guide!

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Bill
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