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New Member
United Kingdom
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Hello Bought this in a job lot from local auction and was trying to establish its authenticity/worth. The last digit of the date seems a bit unclear. Any opinions or info appreciated as I have searched and not found anything similar.   |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Victoria Jubilee head, first issued 1887 up until 1893 depending on denomination.
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New Member
United Kingdom
15 Posts |
Last digit can be one of only three, its defo not a 7, and it looks more like an 8 than a 9. As for authenticity its hard to tell but the colour toning of the Queens head does look as though it is silver, best to weigh the coin itself without mount, should come in at around just over 14 grammes for a half crown (14.14). Seems to be plenty of similar coins on ebay for sale, mostly shillings with enamelling. |
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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Thanks for advice As you say there are plenty on ebay, its the colors that seem subtly different as most have a yellow upper right quadrant in the crest. I would try weighing it but probably not worth the agro of taking it out given mount is soldered and I not confident I would not wreck it. The weight feels about right from handling it, but most fakers will replicate the weight. Unless Its a modern Chinese knock off I doubt anyone would go to the hassle of faking one, and it seems to have wear commensurate with an older item than a modern repro |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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This is not the kind of item prone to faking. If the weights check and it has an aged look to it, undoubtedly it is genuine and made in the period. These were quite commonly made. Nice quality enameled crowns sell for up to $100, maybe half that for 1/2 crowns. Check ebay sold items. |
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Australia
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yeah the mount is definitely going to get wrecked if you want to remove it, as for whether its fake like Oriole doubt its going to be fake. It odd that its that good of a condition tho, maybe it was an unsold shop display piece as if it worn as a pendant or badge it would show signs of wear and ageing, as it stand that's a very high quality piece I would keep it in its mount personally.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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I was doing some metal detecting today and tested the detector on some silver and Nickel coins the detector discriminates between them so I tried the pendant and it tests as silver.
I seen a lot of posts about using magnets, acid or thermal tests to differentiate between silver and nickel coins, using a metal detector seems a simple solution unless I'm missing something?
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Australia
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I seen a lot of posts about using magnets, acid or thermal tests to differentiate between silver and nickel coins, using a metal detector seems a simple solution unless I'm missing something?
You're missing the fact that tones on detectors are guides only and not 100% accurate. The fact the detector shows it as silver supports the case for it being silver but is not absolute proof. |
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Looks real to me, and almost certainly an 1888.
Some enamelled pieces look quite nice, however to be honest, this one is badly enamelled. The colour scheme is horrid and the quality of work is very poor. Look at how badly the garters have been filled in.
Look at the poor work on the crown and how the purple on the fields on the reverse crosses onto Victoria's profile. The red shield surround over green and yellow shield panels makes it look like a bad Rastafarian colour scheme token.
To be honest, they have ruined this piece sorry. Which is sad given the original coin is at least in EF condition. Because of this "vandalism" the coin will have not much more than melt value or jewellery/curiosity value.
If it was a raw coin, it would be $80 - $150, with this damage - $30 if you are lucky, more if someone loves eclectic art.
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