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New Member
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Hello - Any ideas on what is value of 1795 flowing hair silver dollar with a small hole drilled through the R in Liberty? Or maybe put better another way, how much does the hole affect value in this case? Attached is a poor image of the coin but you can get the idea, the coin is actually a lot nicer in person. Image:  1795.silver.dollar.hole.jpg52.03 KB |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I can't see the coin very well, but on average, a 'nice' medium sized hole might take off around 2/3 value or so. Depends on your luck.
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Forum Dad
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Rest in Peace
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I had doubts too BUT I couldn't see much.
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New Member
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hmmm, it might be a copy, but it would have to be pretty old one -about 70 years old or so. This coin is from my grandfaher's collction and everything else is clearly real, though this coin is not like the other items, so perhaps you're right. Attached is a better photo if you're interested taking a second glance. I'm planning on keeping it either way, and I was just curious how that darn whole would be procived. Thanks for the input. While I have never had a coin graded, is this something worth doing or is it mute with a hole and the quesion that it could be a copy? Image: View4.jpg74.04 KB Thanks again |
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Forum Dad
United States
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I've sized them and put them into one photo for easy comparison...  I'm not an expert, but given the new image of the reverse, I would say the chances are very small that its real. There are many different die varieties of this coin though, hopefully someone with more knowledge will come along. |
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United States
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ANACS.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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There are 8 known obverse dies for this date/type dollar coin. My recomendation would be to first weigh the coin and see if it falls within Weight Tolerance, then see if the obverse matches any of the known varieties. ( I can check for you if you sent a high resolution photo/scan to me that I can enlarge in order to do the comparison). If it's not the correct weight, probably fake, if it doesn't match a known die, but is the correct weight....off to the ANACS I would suggest to see if you have a discovery piece. If it is correct weight and matches a known die...bingo... you probably have a real coin. Whatever the end result, it was your grandfathers coin and has value just from that. Coin collecting can be emotional as well as monetary |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know mine is a half dollar dollar, but it's the same type from the same year. Here is picture of my Flowing Hair Type (ANACS VG8). The point of the bust was the result of a late state die failure. I'd say the OP subject coin is about F15  The bust seems a little more worn caompared to the rims, but otherwise, it may be plausible that it's genuine. |
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United States
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I seem to recall forum member Swamperbob writing something about banks drilling a hole in a circulating coin when it was discovered to be counterfeit.
Perhaps you have a counterfeit coin that was taken from circulation and drilled. That certainly would mesh with your statement that the coin was 70 or more years in the same collection.
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I have been studying the hole a little closer. Unless it has been hammered down in modern times, the coin is perhaps genuine. I put a picture of my William Pitt Token (NCS Genuine). It was common for folks in support of William Pitt and people against the Stamp Act, to wear these as medals around their necks thus causing a once perfect hole into a hole where the edges of the hole were "flattened" as seen on this coin and the William Pitt Token. But a hammer in modern times could cause this instantly which would otherwise take quite a while to do. Just a theory.  swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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My bet is that is probably real.
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Forum Dad
United States
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Here it is matched up with a closer PCGS variety....  Still lots of differences. Letters on reverse are very different, look in the area of the CA in America. There are other areas too. Pretty significant. |
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United States
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I believe the OP's coin is a HALF dollar. If so, it looks OK as a genuine, holed example. Here is a photo from a Heritage auction of a higher-grade 1795 half. The overall appearance, including the position of the point of the bust and the lower hair ends, is very similar to the holed coin. There are many die varieties for this date. Perhaps an early half dollar fan could nail the particular Overton number for this one. Better photos would help a lot!  Edited by Jaobler
01/19/2009 7:23 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I did suspect that it looked more like a 50 cent piece because of the similarities with my coin, including the lettering and numbers.
Left coast - you should be able to read the denomination fron the edge of the coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think Jaobler got it. It looks like an O-105.
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Posted 01/17/2009 12:35 pm
