1969 S Proof Kennedy Half Dollar Tripled Die - What Is This?

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tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 02:54 am Calling on the Kennedy specialists here. I found this 1969-S proof Kennedy half dollar tripled die, very obvious and very strong, but can't seem to find it listed anywhere. It's in a scratched up holder and hope to crack it out tomorrow for some real images, but thinking maybe by then someone can tell me what it is. Seems strange to have a bomber like this unlisted. Here is a quick shot through the bad holder. It shows some of what's going on with the coin, clear and very strong tripling on TRUST and at least doubling quite a lot of places as well (see the date). Thanks in advance. Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34419 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 04:00 am @tb, I wonder if this is just an under-researched series, especially in comparison to Lincoln cents. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0815 Pillar of the Community United States 5239 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 08:30 am Love it! Maybe Jbuck or Attrox will chime in! Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHunter4 Pillar of the Community United States 1086 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 09:32 am Very awesome find! That doubling is SUPER clear. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 11:27 am I don't have a copy of the CherryPickers' Guide with half dollars in it, but surely this would be listed if it was a known die at the time of the last edition coming out. Anyone have one of those guides to check? Report this Post to the Staff
sheldius Pillar of the Community United States 1204 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 12:02 pm Not in the 5th Edition CPicker's. They only list a 1968 S and 1970 S. Report this Post to the Staff
macmercury Pillar of the Community United States 5832 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 12:03 pm Nice. I don't see this date in my fifth edition of the CPG. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 12:23 pm Goodness. I really can't believe there is something this strong still floating around waiting to be discovered. I'll crack it out this afternoon and post a full image set. Report this Post to the Staff
Willburton Pillar of the Community United States 2558 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 12:37 pm Very nice. I think you may have an early die state DDO-002. I've been out of town and as long as this delay doesn't last all night, I've got a bomber coming this afternoon myself! The mm position will tell but it seems right to me. http://varietyvista.com/12%20Kenned...9SDDO002.htm Edited by Willburton 11/13/2021 12:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 1:16 pm Interesting. That die does look like it's got some tripling in there, but VV lists that example as Stage A. Either they can't age proof dies correctly or it's not an earlier die state. Report this Post to the Staff
Willburton Pillar of the Community United States 2558 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 1:22 pm Yea I think you have a real stage A. What's the grade on the slab? DCAM? And on another note if they're stage A coin wasn't DCAM then why call it stage A. Maybe it's the only example they have so obviously stage A. Edited by Willburton 11/13/2021 1:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 1:31 pm It's in an old proof set, so no grade involved. Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/13/2021 2:28 pm Photos of most of the important bits. Report this Post to the Staff
Willburton Pillar of the Community United States 2558 Posts	Posted 11/14/2021 07:29 am Great pictures Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 11/14/2021 10:18 am Thanks Will. Any additional thoughts on whether or not this may be a listed die? I didn't see the notch on the D of GOD on DDO-002, and several serifs look stronger on this one that that one as well. Thinking I may just add this to the pile of things to run by CONECA whenever I get back to that end of things. Report this Post to the Staff
atrox001 Valued Member United States 311 Posts	Posted 11/17/2021 5:25 pm I don't think your half would attribute as CONECA listed 69S DDO-001 or DDO-002, they both have the RDV-003 (straight G), yours, in your photo, looks like it has the RDV-002 (flared G). Have you considered you half could be an example of the Master Die, 69S MDO-001? In the CONECA listings for the 69D MDO-001 (D, S) Wiles shows RDV-002 and RDV-003. For the 69S MDO-001 (D, S) he only shows RDV-003. In his Kennedy half dollar Book for the reverse description he said, A few of the old design reverse dies were available and used for a small percentage of the mintage. Could your 69S DDO have come from one of those dies? Attached are copies of what I just referenced and photos of a 69D MDO-001 later die state, from my collection. I have not seen a MDO example of a 69S. 1969-D MDO-001 Designation: MD-1-O-II-C (3) (D, S) Description: Medium spread on LI, with notched corners on I of LIBERTY and IN GOD, and light triple on earlier hub states of WE TRUST, 69 of date, hair under R and Y of LIBERTY Grade: MS65 Population: 1 Markers: Obverse is ODV-002a (MDO) Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state UVC-143 DMR-001 Reverse is RDV-002 (Flared G) UVC-144 DMR-002 Reverse is RDV-003 (Straight G) Reported by: Ed Raser 1969-S MDO-001 Designation: MD-1-O-II-C (3) (D, S) Description: Medium spread on LI, with notched corners on I of LIBERTY and IN GOD, and light triple on earlier hub states of WE TRUST, 69 of date, hair under R and Y of LIBERTY Grade: PR65 Population: 1 Markers: Obverse is ODV-002a Strength of doubling will vary depending upon hub and die state UVC-149 DMR-001 Reverse is RDV-003 (Straight G) Reported by: Ed Raser Report this Post to the Staff
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