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Pillar of the Community
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11/13/2021 5:03 pm
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It's a possibility, but I'm worried this might actually be DDD. Weaker design overall and some die flow visible in the fields. Can you get full coin pics or more pics closer to the edge? Also it's funny that your "Normal" coin is actually a DDR.  Close to WDDR-049, but I'm not sure it's a match: https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com...ings/view/66 |
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Thanks for looking, sir! I added the pics above. Yeah, still learning the subtle nuances of the class 9 nickel doubled dies. I'm familiar with the Lincolns but have much to learn with these. That's funny my normal was the actual DDR, nice catch. I'm working on getting you some numbers on the doubled working hub too. Just need to go through more rolls to get a substantial number, I'm only finding a couple 2021P's per roll. -makecents-
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11/13/2021 5:18 pm
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Definitely looks to be a later die state. Looking closer at the doubling too I see some areas where the shape of the branches were affected, mainly that lowest one you pointed out and the one above the highest one you pointed to, I still think it's DDD but it's definitely an unusual example. Also thanks for keeping an eye out for those 2021's let me know what you find! |
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Quote:Definitely looks to be a later die state. Looking closer at the doubling too I see some areas where the shape of the branches were affected, mainly that lowest one you pointed out and the one above the highest one you pointed to, I still think it's DDD but it's definitely an unusual example. Also thanks for keeping an eye out for those 2021's let me know what you find! Thank you for your help and I will. -makecents-
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Yea I was thinking MD or DDD but hilarious and fortunate that the normal coin is a DDR! |
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Congrats on your "AB Normal" normal DDR. MD on Nickels and clad are so deceptive to my eyes. I would have passed on it as well as being MD, but if you are finding multiples of the same coin, well that's another story. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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I created a way to look at this in sections: Full overview:  Then into 5 sections:      Over view of these 5 areas:  This might help to ID these better? |
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The examples above look like Machine Doubling. Note that the edges are affected and the areas in question removed areas of design. On the DDR's they should be raised above the fields, not level with the fields.  Click on image to enlarge the size for a better view. Edited by coop
11/14/2021 12:17 pm
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Thanks for looking, Will, Pete and coop! I've went back and looked at it again and do not see any of the original design being lost to MD. I can see how it might be Die Deterioration though, as Tanman has called out and will label it as that. -makecents-
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But DDD affect the outer devices. Not the interior devices. The area affected is towards the rim direction starting with the outer edge devices. The area you are looking at are at the center of the design affecting the devices on the outside edge, pushed in a direction. That is Machine Doubling on the arrows that you indicated. Note a DDR as nothing is enlarged/raising above the fields except where the metal was being pushed by Machine Doubling. Nothing is a copy of the hubs design. So it can't be a DDR. |
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Coop, I have not found an overlay program I can do well and not spend half a day trying to work with, so here are a couple of pics, taken at exactly the same size. I do not see any difference in the original size of the upper pic in question and the lower pic of what looks relatively normal. See what you think, I could be wrong but I just don't see MD.   -makecents-
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This is certainly a tricky one. While right off the bat I'd assume it would be DDD, like Tanman mentioned, I'm not sure. These aren't my area of exerptise. Perhaps you can send it to Wexler and see what he has to say? |
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Quote:This is certainly a tricky one. While right off the bat I'd assume it would be DDD, like Tanman mentioned, I'm not sure. These aren't my area of exerptise. Perhaps you can send it to Wexler and see what he has to say? Thanks for checking it out, SilverCents! After much closer inspection, I'm convinced it is not a doubled die, so I would not waste an attributor's time. -makecents-
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