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Looks like these are all from the same die, they all have a horizontal die scratch(?) in the right arch. (Except for the third pic, I can't see it there. Might just be the stains covering it though.) I believe this is DDD. Clearly some heavy die flow through that area too. |
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Thank you, sir! After you said that about the horizontal die scratch, I could also see identical flow lines from the CA to the base of the memorial.
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I really only see it on L O S, could it be die abrasion? John1  |
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I really only see it on L O S, could it be die abrasion? I'll be honest, a lot of things I've seen on the nickels mess with me. I've searched Lincolns for a few years and got really comfortable with them but being new to nickels, it's like I started over. That being said, there are heavy flow lines on all these coins and the last window, above the O, has lots of deterioration. You are correct though, the extreme areas are only where I pointed them out. -makecents-
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Thanks for looking, Dearborn and Oldfordman. Oldfordman, these are going in the out pile but if you would like them, just email me.
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I have come across a number of these as well, and I came to the same conclusion-DDD.
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I have come across a number of these as well, and I came to the same conclusion-DDD. Thanks for the info, Elliot! -makecents-
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First off note the size of the affected devices with the un-affected ones on the same coin. Note that the contour of the devices was removed by Machine Doubling. Nothing is enlarged. (whick would indicate it was a DDR. Just Machine Doubling. If it were a DDR, then the devices would be enlarged, not reduced in size. Also note the affected areas are all on the outside edges of the devices. On a DDR, they could be affected in the centers of the devices:  Not a DDR. Note on the above DDR, the enlargement of the devices. The spread in the centers of the devices. You coin is altered on the outside edges, where Machine Doubling always happens. Outside/inside edges of devices Machine Doubling causes after the strike, even on doubled die, the machine will alter them also. |
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The problem is that DDR is on the side that faces the rim. This is not. It is Machine Doubling. The same machine can make MD differently from strike to strike:  I found these in two new rolls that had never been opened and all were the same BU coins. Note the examples have the same marker on them, so they were all done by the same die pair. But note the difference seen differently strike to strike. There were several more in the roll, but copies of the same Machine Doubling on other coins. If the machine is real loose, it does not follow an exact pattern. Just lighty loose can make the same Machine Doubling. You have Machine Doubling. Not a doubled die, and not DDD. |
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coop, I have ran across the same thing as what you have here, with your 55 D's but look at yours, the MD is all noticeably different, very similar but different. If you look at all of my examples, they are identical, that is what got my attention. I have since tossed a few more of these, as I saw them as a reoccurring issue that would be quite common and did not see a reason to keep them.
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