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1840-O Seated Liberty 25c: Which Is The Scarcer Mintmark Location For An ND Variety?

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I modified this post since I just discovered that the 1840 25c had both a type 1 and type 2 which indicates a transitional year.

I did find the pricing I was looking for with is under type 1.


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In this case the size of the O is unimportant for the type 1. The large O with drapery is the very rare one which I do not have.

I'll keep this close-up of my O since its position is significantly more left than the type 1 PCGS example. Has my coin been altered since I do not see any different examples with similar mm positions?

1840-O-Seated-Liberty-25c:-Which-Is-The-Scarcer-Mintmark-Location-For-An-ND-Variety?

https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...drapery/5393
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1840-O-Seated-Liberty-25c:-Which-Is-The-Scarcer-Mintmark-Location-For-An-ND-Variety?

Since it's now been a year on this completely dormant thread, here's the real easy-to-follow crux of this difficult-to-understand subject matter.

The photos are self-descriptive and somewhat clarify exactly what I am looking for: location(s) to describe this variety having a drastically different position.

The NGC VarietyPlus shows the following but I cannot interprete what it means when comparing their photo (O under the arrow's tail feather) with the photo I took (O under the Eagle's right claw).

https://www.NGCcoin.com/variety-plu...1891/815298/

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My coin has no drapery with the O mintmark under the claw. which seemingly should be a variety. That's an assumption since Coinfacts shows the O mintmark under the arrow's tail feather as the 'regular strike' coin. Plus, they do not even show my ND coin as an example of a variety having the O mintmark way to the left under the claw.

https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...drapery/5393

PCGS CoinFacts shows the O being directly under the arrow's tail feather but does not list it as a variety. In large letters above the primary photo it reads,


Quote:
1840-O 25C No Drapery (Regular Strike)


but in the section below where you click to see the varieties under,


Quote:
Show Related Coins and Varieties (1)

it states only one variety which appears to be the same as a 'Regular Strike',

Quote:
Major Varieties 1840-O 25C No Drapery

Show Related Coins and Varieties (1)


Can a 'variety' be the same as a 'regular strike' which PCGS seems to imply?

On the other hand NGC verbiage seems to imply that the large O under the arrow tailfeather of a 1840-O 25C "with" drapery is scarce. But NGC fails to make clear that an 1840-O 25C 'without' drapery having the O under the claw as common?

Plus both the drapery and non-drapery conditions are written about on NGC but their picture does not say whether it is from the drapery or non-drapery state.

The apparent lack of correlation between the two TPGs has me baffled. The bottom line question is where can I find a reputable 3rd party site to describe more succinctly the rarer mintmark location for an 1840-O ND (no drapery) 25C?
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