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A 20? D Mint Dime If Reading Correctly But Confused Why

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Not for sure if major damage or something else If you notice the word one is also showing some effect on reverse but is on the opposite side of the date. Date is on front Bottom right the word...one (One Dime) is on reverse bottom left. And some pics I was trying to show rim is still there at first thought sanded but no traces of deep scratches but want other opinions. PLEASE EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS.

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Definitely damaged after leaving the mint. Useless trying to figure out what caused it.
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Agreed, PMD.
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Thank you just wanted conformation
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Third digit looks like a zero to me.
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I am no error expert so I accept the advice of those on this site that are more well versed than I. This looks similar to a tilted partial collar. Perhaps Coop or others can explain to me the difference.
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This looks similar to a tilted partial collar. Perhaps Coop or others can explain to me the difference.

I would have to agree maybe a bit of a tilted die.
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Something I haven't heard of tilted collar At first I thought damage but it's smooth so I tried getting close up view with my phone then realized not scratched like I assumed it should be and just FYI it's actually thicker than normal a normal dime but haven't weighed it
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Could it be a coin that went through the dryer maybe I don't know why that just popped in my head seen someone post one a while back but don't remember what it looked like
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This is not a tilted partial collar but just damage. The edges are nearly ground smooth, partial collar strikes occur when there is a malfunction of the striking press. This causes the collar to be in an incorrect position. The lower die (usually the reverse die) is recessed in the collar.
This allows the coin which is going to be struck to have a formed rim. After a coin is struck the lower die raises upwards, pushing the struck coin out of the collar and ejecting it.

If a blank entering the collar is not properly seated, it will only have partial reeding as it is struck. The edge of this coin will have a partial reeding and a partial blank surface area. Recently, the Mint has installed new machinery where either die can be installed in either position.
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Thank you again guys for the info this is why I ask for help and really appreciate all The advice and feed back
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Not sure if I am fully understanding this. So because of the Reeding Marks extending to the obverse rim in the damaged area that means it is not a partial collar issue? Would a partial collar disrupt the upset rim in that area? Not arguing anything here, just trying to educate myself with the help of the community.
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Here's one selling on loose change coins. Check out the last photos.

Another selling on eBay didn't show the partial reeding but you should be able to tell by it.
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Thanks MAC, I think I understand. Because the collar is out of place the reeding doesn't get struck at all in that area. Not sure I would be able to tell the difference on coins without a reeded edge but I guess that is what this forum is for.
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What is going on with the right side of the left coin?
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Yeah? That looks like a partial collar.
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