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Old Moneybox - National Provincial Bank- Full But No Key ?

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I was just wondering if anyone has any bright ideas.
I have this old National Provincial moneybox full of ERII brass 3d. Coins are not valuable but one of the Grandchildren really likes the box and I would like to give it to him but it's no use full. I don't have a key !
I have tried NatWest bank but no help there. Local locksmiths say NO as it's not a door, we live rural-ish so not a huge choice. Original manufacturer no longer exists.
I don't want to mangle the lock so any ideas would be appreciated.
Cheers
Brian.

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 Posted 12/13/2021  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No locksmith worthy of the name would ever say "No, because it's not a door".
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 Posted 12/13/2021  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JBL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe not Coinfrog but that was the response.
I'll try further afield and see if I have any luck.
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 Posted 12/13/2021  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What on earth is in there I wonder?

This may sound king of silly, but have you tried picking it yourself with some paper clips or something?

Who knows, it might open pretty easily.
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Get a better locksmith! I had one of these when I was a teenager and the local locksmith picked it in minutes.
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Somebody has faced this "problem" of a lockbox with no key long before you.

As coinhunter4 suggested try picking the lock yourself. Some WD40, old keys that fit the opening and some sturdy thin metal rods might just get the job done.

The box can be gotten in to without destroying it. Just takes time, patience and the right tools to get the job done.
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I know some locksmits here in Turkey who would take great pleasure from picking something that is not a door, as they pick doors all the time. :)
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If you have a local antique shop, or a general junk shop, you could take it in and ask the owner/manager if they have any keys you could try. In my experience these people hang on to lots of old keys in case they are of use in the future!
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Any locksmith with a decent reputation ..
That thing is opened in two minutes !
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Keep calling locksmiths until you find one that will do it for you.
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Thanks all, lots to work on there.
I'll let you know how I get on.
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I took up lock picking a few years ago. A beginner pick set is not expensive. Watch some videos on YouTube and maybe get a Schlage deadbolt to practice on. If you have the touch you'll pick up on it pretty quickly.
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I am just puzzled about ERII Threepences. I mean these are coins with very little value - so why would you want to desecrate an antique money box to get at some coins worth around 5p each. Plus being in there half a century, they would be all dusty and grubby.

I am assuming you mean Queen Elizabeth II threepences as brass ones were not made before 1937 and I doubt any King Edward 8 brass 3d's exist (Except those patterns and they have a 100 million to 1 chance of being in a kids moneybox).
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Pretty cool lock box.


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so why would you want to desecrate an antique money box
That's the point: they want to figure out how to open the box without desecrating it, because they want to gift it as a box but the contents interfere with that.

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Plus being in there half a century, they would be all dusty and grubby.
I suspect they'd be mint state actually, though possibly tarnished. How exactly does the OP know what's in it, anyway?

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I am assuming you mean Queen Elizabeth II threepences
I thought so as well, R for Regina. Elizabeth Regina II.
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The keyhole doesn't look like anything extravagant .I say try a few simple keys and keep wiggling them around and use slight upward pressure on the lid .
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