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1969 D Penny DDO? Looks Like A Close Spread To Me But I'm Still Just A Hobbyist

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Good evening CoinCommunity!

Found an anomalous 1969 D Penny in my change today. It appears to me to have a fairly close spread on the 969 in the date, as well as in the GO in GOD. What do you all think? Thanks in advance everyone, I appreciate your input.


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 Posted 12/13/2021  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it does look interesting. On this one, I'm going to wait to see what more experienced folks have to say .
I'll add 2 things here.
1. It does look like split serifs on the date.
and
2. too bad the coin is covered with what appears to be fingerprints on the obverse.
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12/13/2021 6:49 pm
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@Dearborn I know it, it's the way I found it lol although I suspect it would probably come off with some acetone or something right? I had to get out of collecting for a while, other life stuff was going on so I've lost a fair bit of the knowledge I had gained, but iirc there are methods to remove junk from the surface of coins that aren't considered cleaning right?
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I normally stay away from commenting on doubled dies but that definitely looks like a solid split serif on the 9s of the dates. I agree on the fingerprint, that's harsh I would try am acetone soak asap to see if you can clear some of it off without damaging the cent.

As for the doubling I will wait for the experts on this as well

Edit:acetone can remover the finger print but there may be a permanent imprint underneath due to the oils damaging the surface of the coin. You responded as I was replying lol.
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I appreciate the input guys, hopefully I've found something worth putting in the collection!
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Varietyvista mentions one known DDO, you can see if yours matches that one, but I can't quite tell, but your coin does indeed look promising.
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 Posted 12/13/2021  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yorkish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@mrwhatsit I checked varietyvista and doubleddie.com as well as coppercoins.com and none of the listings on any of the sites look at all like this one. Possibly a new variety?
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Acetone will do nothing for your fingerprints, and neither will anything else. Sorry, but you're stuck with them on the surface of your coin. Never clean your coins. Never. And always handle them with cotton gloves to avoid fingerprints.

I agree your coin looks promising.
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@merclover I have checked all three of the above sites and none of them have a listing the looks even remotely like this one. I'm stumped.
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Did you search past posts here on CCF? Top left search box. Maybe there's something there.
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@merclover I sure did! It was my next step after checking the variety sites. I found some mentions of 1969 D Pennies but they were all either D over S, off center strikes, or condition questions.
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Acetone won't do much for your coin, however, it isn't an evil substance when used intelligently. Any way you could take a few photos using a diffused light source--cutting down the glare just a bit? Would like to see more.
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@ijn my coin scope has 4 built in LED lights and because of its bulk I can't seem to get exterior lighting to work at all with it, but I have done my best to diffuse the LED's, I hope these are good enough.


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I believe what you are seeing is a result of light reflection and a severely worn out die. Your second set of pictures look totally different than your first set of pictures. The O in GOD is not doubled. If it was, you would see an increase in the size of this letter, not what it currently looks like. The thickness of the O seems to be cut in half which is not indicative of a doubled die. This die has been heavily braided as evidenced by the striations and polishing lines you can see. There also appears to be quite a bit flow lines, not typically seen on a copper Lincoln except under extreme magnification which can further make things look like something they are not (extreme magnification is not always your friend), which leads me to believe your coin is a result of Die Deterioration as well as lighting issues.
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Bro if you could see my setup XD I'll keep at it with the pictures in the hopes I can get some decent ones. I'm legit using pieces of toilet paper to try to dull the bright white LED's, it's 100% not working is it.
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Let's wait for coop,but I do not think it is a DDO.
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