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Ok so I'm to excited to hold back so what ever you want to hit me with go for it if you can't see it you can't see it doesn't matter none to me. So just acquired a 1792 pattern copper Half Disme this will be only the second of its kind should be here in the next few days till then I will be going crazy waiting. Here are a couple pics hope you can make it out it's not easy.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a blank metal disc. Could be a worn coin but can't identify it based on these photos.
What makes you think it is a J-8 pattern coin?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Seriously? If it is what you describe what would it be worth?
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The first pic is the obverse and it's turned clockwise about 15deg if you look at it from that angle the lightest part just below center you can make out HALF below on the rim it's difficult but Disme can also be made along with the star now go back up to the L in half and just above it is his talon and above that his head
The second is the obverse very difficult to make out but if you look at the coin in its center find the curling lines going north to south this is her hairline at the top of it you will see her hair flowing straight east towards to bottom multiple curls going south easterly follow the hair line to the rim and 1792
Can be found
This is what I can make out and I'm using a phone so zoom in if you need to because it's all there
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Bedrock of the Community
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Good luck with this. I can see little upside to your research.
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As to what it's worth I haven't a clue if I were to guess at this grade maybe a little over 100k 150k just guessing
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From the Heritage Auction site: https://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/1.../1216-5506.s1792 DTH10C Half Disme, Judd-8, Pollock-8 AU55 NGC. CAC. 18.2 grains. One of the most discussed pieces in the entire United States series, the 1792 Half Disme is a perennial collector favorite. There are approximately 250 extant silver Half Dismes, but only one in copper. Pedigree of the Unique 1792 Copper Half DismeAU55 NGC. Joseph J. Mickley (Mason & Co., 11/1878), lot 348, realized $9; Lorin G. Parmelee (New York Coin and Stamp, 6/1890), lot 4, realized $13; Charles Morris (S.H. and H. Chapman, 4/1905), lot 360, realized $12; Waldo Newcomer; Major Lenox Lohr (Empire Coin Company FPL, c. 1961), offered at $9,750; Hazen B. Hinman (Paramount Century, 4/1965), lot 51, realized $2,800; John L. Roper, 2nd (Stack's, 12/1983), lot 428, realized $20,900; Donald Groves Partrick. The present coin. Physical Appearance This coin exhibits medium brown color with occasional contrasting highlights in Liberty's lower curls and portions of the obverse lettering. There are no marks of note apart from a small planchet flaw on Liberty's cheek. The extremities of the strike are soft on the left obverse, and cause weakness in the dentils and tops of the letters. The catalogers suggest that the softness of strike, rather than wear, gives the appearance of light circulation. Both the obverse and reverse present smooth surfaces blanketed with even toning. This coin has a plain edge, as opposed to the diagonal reeding used on the silver Half Dismes. The die orientation is 350 degrees, or close to medal alignment. The allure of the present offering is difficult to overstate. It is a unique pattern, impressed by the same dies used to strike the first coins issued by the United States for circulation. George Washington's "small beginning in the coinage" began with this very coin. The foundering steps of the fledgling Mint, Jefferson's symbol of sovereignty, are embodied in this enchanting piece of copper. History has chosen to preserve this treasure, and history will again be made as it passes under the hammer for the first time in a generation. Coin Index Numbers: (PCGS# 11021) Edit: Added pedigree details Edited by nfine
01/02/2022 7:58 pm
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@spencer, any chance of you measuring the specific gravity of this piece? Thx.
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Thanks for the read I've already seen that piece and yes soon as it gets here I will be taking measurements and weight on the piece and posting them here. It's gonna take him a few days to get it shipped with the holidays.
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I can say this much I seen it beside a 1794 liberty cap and it seemed on spot so around 28mm but like I said I will post all true measurements once I have them
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Pillar of the Community
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I am sitting on the side line and watching, as I have no clue where this is going.
Good luck with your research.
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Pillar of the Community
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Sorry, I see nothing more than a blank, porous disk. I hope you didn't pay any more than free for this one. Best of luck in your authentication process.
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Mac I think I'm with you on this one someone let me know how it goes lol
And for those who can't see what I see well that I can understand this is a difficult coin and the pictures aren't that great still I see it and who knows maybe with a little luck the third graders might see it who knows either way I know what it is and I have one in my small collection and isn't that what it's all about
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Pillar of the Community
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Did you the favor of a side by side of your damaged bust Half Cent with a FR02 bust Half Cent.  |
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Ok KY you got me only one thing has me puzzled what about the evil flowing hair on the other side with the 1792 below her ? And why does my draped bust not have a bust line or bust and why she got a scrawny duck looking thing flying on her head ? Crazy the things I see in these coins sometimes lol
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Great ID by KYCopperCoins!
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Posted 01/02/2022 7:30 pm
