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1861-O 50c Liberty Seated Half Dollar

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Happy new year everyone! This is my first purchase using some ebay bucks that I has accumulated. The white lines at 3 o'clock in the reverse are creases on the holder that extend out to the right. Thoughts? Thanks!

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 01/03/2022  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need better pics. I have questions.
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 Posted 01/03/2022  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it has been buried, maybe. Can you see any diagnostics to tell if it's Union/LA/CSA issue?
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No, these are seller's pics. I will post more pics when I have it in hand. Thanks.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Awful pics for sure, but I'll say EF-40 sharpness.
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The color seems awfully dark to me. Can someone enlighten me as to what might be a good reason why? Thx.
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Kinda looks like lead, doesn't it.
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Quite an unattractive piece based on these images. Color could be due to environmental damage. Could also be a counterfeit in lead or other base metal, as suggested by Coinfrog.

What was it about this coin that caught your interest?
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Agreed, somethings off , if it is genuine, surfaces look grainy, some kind of ED. Tentative XF Details for me.
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I love this date! I remember hearing once that the AU and MS examples were hoarded in bags that resided in the New Orleans mint when the Confederacy took it over in 1861. These half dollars are silent witnesses to such a dramatic, pivotal historical moment! Details seem VF(30) to me, with possible environmental damage, but it is tough to judge from the photos. Seated Liberty coins often throw me. I remember submitting an AU example of this very date (although I don't really see wear on it--the surface preservation, especially broken luster on a blast white coin, is probably high AU) I got a long time ago when I was in high school for 175 dollars. I submitted it to PCGS in 2020 and they called it "cleaned," despite no hairlines and some traces of cartwheel luster, especially on the reverse. Finally, NGC put it in an AU(55) slab--I was hoping for an AU(58).
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Kinda looks like lead, doesn't it.

That's exactly what I thought! This could be a cast lead counterfeit and you couldn't even tell from these terrible photos. I see XF-40 details.
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who knows what this will look like in hand. looks XF40 will need to wait until you have it in hand to determine originality and surfaces
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AU details. Looks very dark indeed. Curious to see your in-hand images.
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I will wait for in hand pics.
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This came in. Thoughts? Thanks!

1861-O-50c-Liberty-Seated-Half-Dollar
1861-O-50c-Liberty-Seated-Half-Dollar
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I'll stick with EF-40, but it still looks like lead.
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