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2021 P New Nickel DDR And No, It's Not In The Doorway!

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Still very new to searching nickel bank rolls but enjoying it. If someone has not turned this in yet and just sitting on an attributor's desk, I have a nice class nine discovery coin. A shame it has some damage in the doubled area but still shows well. As these class nines usually are, it is centralized, with the best doubling on NTICE and the steps.


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 Posted 01/08/2022  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like MD on the N and T
I think the C took a hit and flattened it out
The L's look normal to me.

But I'm no expert here
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Looks like MD on the N and T
I think the C took a hit and flattened it out
The L's look normal to me.
Dearborn, that is why I put the comparison pics in there, if you cannot discern mine from the normal coin, I cannot explain it any further.

Alright, maybe I can. Here is a pic that shows there is no loss of size (note the yellow line), not MD and yes there is damage, I noted that in the beginning of the thread. Hopefully this will help.

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Really hard to tell on this on. Any thickness on the central building design? Some of the doubling really looks like DDD to me and the damage is covering up some key areas.
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Tanner. The doubling is central but moves northeast, as can easily be seen on the NT. I really thought it was obvious but I guess between my pics and the damage it is not. Here are a few more pics that show the thickness in the stairs and some in the middle of the columns. Let me know what you think.


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With the thickness on the stairs, yeah definitely a DDR.

Without any other context from the building, I would have called the doubling of MONTICELLO just DDD. You just don't see this kind of separation on modern DDs (Still could be a mix of DDD and DD) and it's lacking obvious notching (Although I think now I can see some slight notching on the I in the new pic).

I've found 2 2021-P's with extra thickness DDRs so far. Yours doesn't match either of mine.
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Thanks Tanner and sorry, Dearborn, I may have overstepped, thought it was obvious but forget, in hand it's a little different....
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I was just really excited about this find, because what I researched, there has not been a doubled die of this caliber in years, with the nickels.
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Do not be excited, You has a funny coin to be put on his place. Right with NE. Up maybe and die crack?. For me is funny the lines of the building. It is the photos or to old to distinguish angles and parallels lines?

In general till now the DD was up also, your do not has. Curios to see what Mike or Coop say.
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Do not be excited, You has a funny coin to be put on his place. Right with NE. Up maybe and die crack?. For me is funny the lines of the building. It is the photos or to old to distinguish angles and parallels lines?

In general till now the DD was up also, your do not has. Curios to see what Mike or Coop say.
Thanks for checking it out, silviosi! I feel very comfortable with this being a very nice doubled die but feel I need to find a better example before sending in, as very key areas are damaged. Maybe someone else has already sent one in and is waiting to be attributed, we'll see.
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Here are the listed ones so far for that site:
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You might contact Brian and see what he thinks. The link in on my signature line below.
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I agree with Tanman's assessmen (almost always do, he is just about the gold standard around here when it comes to minor varieties on modern US coinage). I see some very minor extra thickness, especially on the C, so it is a doubled die, but I think there's also some DDD going on on the N and T, which is muddying the water.
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You might contact Brian and see what he thinks. The link in on my signature line below.
Thank you, sir!
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Thanks for looking, Sam. I agree, Tanman2001 is all over the "modern" doubled dies and so much more, very sharp and learned individual.
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