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Hey all! This Lincoln Cent is a new acquisition of mine. I paid $225 for it which I think is a really good price for this coin. Flipover Double Strikes are already very uncommon, but of all the Flipover Double Strikes I've seen, very very few have been dual off center. Two things caught my eye about this coin when inspecting it closely in hand. Firstly is the unfortunate scratch on the "reverse" side. How this coin avoided a details designation from PCGS I am not sure. The second thing I noticed was also on the reverse. I am confused as to how the word "Liberty" is completely readable. From my understanding, this part of the coin should have been completely obstructed by another planchet, which should have obliterated all of the devices on the opposite side of the second strike. In fact, traces of the Lincoln memorial(part of the second strike) can be seen underneath the T and Y of "Liberty"(part of the first strike). I'm confused as to how this is possible. Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thank you!   Edited by Adam_E
01/31/2022 8:55 pm
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I unfortunately don't have any insight, but am hoping to learn from whoever does have that insight. It might be nice to get @mikediamond's opinion on this one.
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Yep, now that is a genuine mint error  . 225? I would have bought that fairly quickly at that price  . Now the scratch avoidance by our friends at PCGS is probably by this being such a dramatic error they just let it slide. It could be a clashed event, or it could be a triple strike with one of those flipped over. Yeah, coop and Mike-D should have a field day over this one  . |
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Great looking error coin!  |
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Incredible error! I'm no expert, but I expect some serious experts will come along soon. Congrats on an amazing error!
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The first off-centre strike looks normal. Undoubtedly, another planchet got involved here before the second strike on that coin. The tricky part is figuring out what, exactly?  I do know this, $225 in a PCGS Gold Shield holder is a steal for that error!! "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Very cool coin. John1  |
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its a picasso |
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Excellent error. Congrats.
I'm not sure how they deciphered the 7 in the date, but the more numbers the better.
The reverse of the coin (no date) has part of the memorial columns visible under the TY. This makes me think this coin had a mid-stage brockage for the first strike. (No obverse details on the first strike.)
EDIT: There is only so much room on the label so the attributor probably put the information that is more desirable. Brockage coins are nice but a "Flip-over double-struck , both 70% Off- Center" is WOW.
One more line on the label and they could have added the brockage!
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02/01/2022 05:56 am
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Thank you all for the comments! I am certainly very happy with the coin.
Pete,
When looking at the "obverse" side of the coin the strike that applied the memorial on that side was the first strike, so the strike that applied the word "Liberty" on the reverse side is also a part of the first strike. I'm not sure a brockage would allow you to clearly make out details of the underlying strike through the brockage. I'm fairly certain that a brockage, assuming there was one, happened on the second strike and not the first. Though this still doesn't explain why that brockage didn't obliterate the detail from the first strike.
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Nice coin! Here's the PCGS pictures of the coin!  |
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It honestly had not occurred to me to check the trueview pictures, thank you for that!
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Looks like there is also a clash showing on the Liberty area on the coin.  Edited by coop
02/01/2022 7:42 pm
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I was asked for my opinion. The second off-center strike was uniface. As is often the case in such errors, the relatively soft metal of the underlying planchet failed to obliterate the first-strike lettering of LIBERTY. While the raised letters should ordinarily show expansion, in this case they retain their original size. I'm not entirely sure why, but I've seen this effect before. As for the columns of the Memorial that appear beneath crushed LIBERTY and to the left of the first-strike bust, this is simply an incuse ghost image of the reverse design that bled through the thinned metal of the double-struck tab.
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