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1969 Mint " Proof Sets" , Original Unopened Packaging

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I took the chance and went for it and am waiting for the package to arrive. I found among many other "all original unopened U S Mint proof sets" in the original unopened packaging from the Mint (20) sets of " not seen since packaged by the Mint"all 20 in one large package dated and stamped from the post office "1969", I know that this sounds hard to believe and at 1st I did not, however after checking out the package, from photo's and seeing that this person had many, many years of sets all original from the Mint I decided to see just what is in this package, " not seen for 40-years and who knows there could be a few nice things inside, some sweet 1969 GEMS and we all know what else could be in there, the star of the year 1969( as far as coins go) the DDO error, now I don't know what I will find and to be very honest, I am waiting patiently to be the first person to see inside this package ( from what I am told) and will share my finds once I know.

The question I would ask you all is would you of done this too, and took the chance to see just what things look like inside that package. I know there are those of us that find it hard to believe that things are not gone unopened or not gone unchecked,or unsearched like some ads state, but how often do you get a chance to do this( I do believe that the package was not checked or opened for 40- years). I don't know what the odds are of finding a Gem or two or the 69-DDO, I do not even know if there is an estimate on the mintage of these errors. I would also ask how many on the forum have a 1969 DDO, and what kind of shape or condition these coins are in that you might have.

I just thought I would share the thought of wondering just what might be in this package and would like to get your opinions on this topic, don't get me wrong I am not thinking I have something great inside this package, I just could not pass up the chance to see what is inside,after 40-years, could you? PS: My mistake, they are 1969-S U S Mint-Proof sets...
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01/28/2009 10:16 am
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 Posted 01/28/2009  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope it works for you.
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It never hurts to dream, but your chance of finding a 1969S DDO cent in a mint set is exactly zero. All of the mint set coins were minted around the same time from just a few pairs of dies. If there were ever going to be a doubled die in the S mint cent spot, at least one would have surfaced by now.

All known 1969S doubled dies were found either in BU rolls or in pocket change. Given they have been found in BU rolls, they would be impossible in mint sets.

Another thing to take note of is the fact that fresh mint set envelope fakes can be had for next to nothing. Some people make it a habit to open sets, search through them, reseal them in fake envelopes, and resell them as original.

As for me, I wouldn't bother with the time and expense of mint sets, unless there were something specific known to come from mint sets, like 1970S RPM#1. Those are ONLY known to come from mint sets. All other years are simple uncirculated coins to me, and usually come cheaper when NOT in the sets.

Proof sets are a completely different story. Since they are different coins from a different process, all coins that were made as proof remain proof whether in the set or not, and none like them were released for circulation. Proof sets can often make for profitable finds for die variety hunters if you know which ones to be looking through.
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CC, Thanks for the input, I read your post and checked the sets I purchased, my mistake, these are " 1969-U S Mint Proof "sets, also I know you know your copper coins and appreciate your input, thanks, Mike....

PS: YOU SAY " and none like them were released for circulation " cpuld you explain this ? thanks.
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Proof sets were meant for collections not circulation.
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 Posted 01/28/2009  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies Rockdude,I will await the package and share the results....
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 Posted 01/28/2009  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good Luck!

Hope you find "something" Spectacular
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I misread the original post. Proof sets are generally not called 'Mint Proof Sets' - the two terms are contradictory and generally separated. Mint sets are unicurculated coins meant for circulation but packaged as sets and sold by the mint. Proof sets are special coins that were not made for circulation, but for collectors instead.

Since what you are geting are "proof" sets, they are never "sealed". They come in a box that can be opened and closed, unless they are in an original Mint mailing package postmarked in 1969...those would be pretty scarce and always worth opening to see what's inside...but if it is not in an original sealed box from the Mint postmarked in 1969, it's just a 1969 proof set and is not worth any premium because it has been looked at.
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Oh...one other thing to note: There are no known valuable doubled dies known for any 1969 proof coin. The 1969S DDO is NOT a proof coin and would be 100% impossible to find in a proof set.

Perhaps that's where I got steered wrong in assuming you were talking about mint sets instead of proof sets. It's well known that the 1969S DDO is not proof.
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 Posted 01/28/2009  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi All,

There is a very nice Doubled Die Obverse that can be found on a 1969 S quarter dollar. There is also a nice Tripled RPM S/S/S on a '69S quarter.

There are also a few unlisted , minor DDOs and DDRs on 1969 S Kennedys.

There is nothing known on the cents , nickels, or dimes as of yet.

Thanks,
Bill
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01/28/2009 4:19 pm
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CC,
I want to again thank-you for your input, I made the mistake and originally posted "mint sets, read your reply and checked the order I am awaiting, and realized the sets were "proof sets", your reply "unless they are in an original Mint mailing package postmarked in 1969...those would be pretty scarce and always worth opening to see what's inside...", This is exactly what this package is,A U S Mint packaged, 20-sets of Proof sets, dated from the post office, 1969, stamped on the package cover.
I apologize for the oversight...thanks again...

Bill, Thanks to you also for the other information I will be looking for too, I will be posting the finds when they arrive, all information greatly appreciated, I could not let this go by and not see what is inside the originally wrapped mint packaged, 1969-s PROOF sets....
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