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Large Coin/Medal, Philips II, 1568

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 Posted 02/11/2022  11:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Browsing the book "De Munten der Bisschoppen van de Heerlijkheid en de stad Utrecht", I came across a drawing of the following coin/medal:
Large-Coin/Medal,-Philips-II,-1568
Does anyone has more information about it (apart from what van der Chijs is writing)? Perhaps seen it in the wild?
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 Posted 02/12/2022  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope. Pretty impressive.

I wonder if anyone can name all the coats of arms?
(Aragon, Castile and Leon are pretty easy up the top, and I think I see Burgundy and Zeeland. But assigning all those other lions is where it gets tricky)
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If you gave us the attribution number that would help, but this piedfort sold at auction back in 2016 seems pretty close to being a match:

https://www.sixbid.com/en/schulman-...Sticky=false

Here is the description (in English using google translate plus my improvements along with the original Dutch):


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Undated Piedfort Pronkdaalder, Silver, PHILIPS II 1555-1581 Engraved by Arent Gheelvoet. Obv: armored bust of king facing left with order sign of the Golden Fleece; below is mintmark. Inscription PHILIPPVS• DEI• G• HISP'• REX• DVX• GEL'• Rev: within a border of 18 crowned arms the crowned coat of arms on a Burgundian cross between two flames. delm. 84; JMP 1953, no. 5; vdCh. 24.6. 69.05 g. EXTREMELY RARE AND GORGEOUS CABINET TONING. The heaviest specimen known to us. Very fine/Beautiful.


Piedfort pronkdaalder z.j., Silver, PHILIPS II 1555-1581 Met stempels gesneden door Arent Gheelvoet. Geharnast borstbeeld met ordeteken van het Gulden Vlies naar links, daaronder mt. #10021;. Omschrift PHILIPPVS• DEI• G• HISP'• REX• DVX• GEL'• Kz. binnen een rand van 18 gekroonde wapentjes het gekroonde wapenschild op een Bourgondisch kruis tussen twee vuurstalen. Delm. 84; JMP 1953, no. 5; vdCh. 24.6.69,05 g. UITERST ZELDZAAM EN SCHITTEREND KABINETSTUK. Het zwaarste exemplaar ons bekend Zeer fraai/Prachtig
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Wow! Nice research.

It looks to be the Gelderland equivalent of the Utrecht coin posted by NumisEd.

Obv legend ends in DVX GEL (Duke of Guelders) rather than DNS TRAIEC (Lord of Utrecht)
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I find it amazing that a coin engraver from the 16th century had such high skills to be able to engrave 18 detailed little heraldic shields, among other things.
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