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1797 Two Pence Questions / Maybe DDR?

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 Posted 02/12/2022  3:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GBiscuits to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey All,

This coin was passed on to me from my dad, who got it form his father (my grandfather). I was going to get it graded for a family keepsake. He came back from Europe in WWII with it.

It looks real based on what research I have found, but would love any confirmation here too. What I also noticed is it seems to be a doubled die reverse too? It's really noticeable on the B and R in Britannia. But the date has minor doubling too. I wasn't able to find much in the way of DDR's on this coin.

If I get it graded is this something I should note as an attribute? Not sure if they catalog these or not. Would love your thoughts.

Thanks!

-GB
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 Posted 02/12/2022  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@gb, what happened to the letters? Did someone use a pin to scrape out the gunk or something? Just in case that was you, definitely don't do that again. I don't know how much a coin like this would be worth but those scratches have got to hurt the value.
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 Posted 02/12/2022  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GBiscuits to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed as well, no clue who did that. wish they hadn't!
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First, I believe you will find this is a penny, not tuppence.

Second: before having it slabbed, do an ebay SOLD search to find one in similar condition that sold so you have an idea of the value. Slabbing can cost you a lot of money depending on the company you use. NGC and PCGS require you buy a membership as well while ANACS does not. And while some out there will argue NGC and PCGS are better than ANACS at grading coins, the facts are a coin cracked out and resubmitted to very same company to be slabbed again is never guaranteed the same grade it had.

http://goccf.com/t/346174#2967242

Third: the doubling is a non collectible form of doubling called " Machine Doubling" that adds no value (search error-ref.com for Machine Doubling to for a better understanding).

Fourth: Cool penny! I am hoping one of these days to get one. Typically the ones I see are not as in as nice a condition as yours.
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Find a LCS that will send it in for you and have the slabbing company Put your grandfathers military info (or something like that) on the label...
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I don't think it's going to be gradable, with the pin-scratches inside the lettering like that.

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First, I believe you will find this is a penny, not tuppence.

No, this one's a tuppence.

The way to easily tell from pictures (when you don't have a weight or size to judge by), is to look at the trident, and where the trident is pointing. On the penny, the line extending from the trident's shaft and central point are clean missing the second letter letter "N". NGC example. On the tuppence (and on the OP's pic), the line extended from the trident shaft makes a direct hit on the "N". NGC example.
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Nice tip re the trident Sap.
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You learn something new every day with coin collecting thanks for your tip Sap.
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