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Ballyhoo Pillar of the Community United States 1613 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 10:13 am Looking to assemble a proof set for my father's upcoming birthday June 4, I happened across a coin with a grade I'd not seen as of yet. Followed by several questions looking at it. First, if we compare the wear to a normal issue the grade translates to an EF, I'd say more towards an EF20 than EF40, based on the smoothness of the thigh and breast areas of Lady Liberty and the breast feathers of the reverse eagle. So how does this get a CAC for the grade? Are they somehow saying it boarders on a PF50? Finally, at what point does a circulated proof become impaired and details graded? Not that I'm buying this example, mind you. I'm shooting for a 67 as it was my birth year and his first born. A nice touch, no? https://www.ebay.com/itm/334087808453 ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon Edited by Ballyhoo 02/27/2022 10:16 am Report this Post to the Staff

machine20 Pillar of the Community United States 1272 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 10:54 am I agree with you. Looks more worn than the grade would suggest Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4468 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 11:03 am Quote: First, if we compare the wear to a normal issue the grade translates to an EF, I'd say more towards an EF20 than EF40, based on the smoothness of the thigh and breast areas of Lady Liberty and the breast feathers of the reverse eagle. So how does this get a CAC for the grade? Are they somehow saying it boarders on a PF50? I agree the coin appears to be overgraded at PF40 when compared to business examples at the XF40 grade, and both PCGS and CAC may have missed on this one, The green sticker simply means per CAC: "The coin has been verified as meeting the standard for strict quality within its grade". Interesting that the coin is the lowest graded proof in the Walking Liberty half dollar series, so there is not another proof at grade to compare. Edited by Slider23 02/27/2022 11:07 am Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4680 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 11:51 am I would also agree. XF40 looks a little generous, even for a business strike. Given it's proof, one can assume almost all intended design detail was present post strike. That said, looks VF to me as well. Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4680 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 12:55 pm As for the "impaired" side of things; I've always considered anything below UNC to be impaired, but only considered "details" if it shows signs of damage (cleaning, heavy distracting scratches, etc) just as a business strike would be. I wouldn't consider a proof "details" for circulation wear alone. Report this Post to the Staff
Earle42 Bedrock of the Community United States 10029 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 2:17 pm Quote: So how does this get a CAC for the grade? This is just another example of the reality when subjectivity is the standard for grading rather than coins being graded using a verifiable standards. We cannot expect scientific type results when, as the companies say, grading is an art and not a science. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halves https://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 Report this Post to the Staff
hokiefan_82 Pillar of the Community United States 3634 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 7:49 pm I agree with the comments that the coin is possibly over graded. I can't imagine there are enough collectors of "lowball" proof coins to justify the price of a PF65 or PF66 of the same date, even though it's the lowest graded proof of the series. Maybe I'm mistaken, though; I guess we'll see if it actually sells... Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/ My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188 Report this Post to the Staff
NumismaticsFTW Pillar of the Community United States 2280 Posts	Posted 02/27/2022 8:07 pm This looks similar to an xf40 all day long. Full breast lines tells me everything I need to know. That is the indication it is atleast xf40 You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think. -Neil deGrasse Tyson Report this Post to the Staff
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