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Hello, I past trough many quarters for marker on reverse, so I find this and my question if someone find one like this or has some chime about. Is BU so I put only the data of the coin.

normal is 5.67 gr THIS 5.74
Diameter normal 24.3 mm THIS 25.42 mm

At this diameter how could be strike with the collar for 1.12mm less, and also is in that time was use feeder fingers, so how can be move by those?

Any input appreciate, Thanks.

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@sil, I'd love to see pics of this coin, but I wonder if it isn't a more expensive version of a Texas Cent?
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I will take my meal and after I will put. Yesterday and today I past over 500 quarters for markers.
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I think that's within tolerance weight wise. The 1.1 mm don't know how. Cupronickel would be tough to grow like a Texas Cent. Zinc is soft enough to expand enough to loosen up the electroplated cooper.
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@SPENCE:
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1996P was 327 coins. From those only two has same marks like I we enumerate here (I will send to Miguel also):

1.N in UNUM almost touch the head
2.Left leg on A STATES no sheriff
3.Dot on the left wing bottom between the leaves
4.Leaf upper U is very short
5.8 tail feathers
6.Last feather is overlaps by the leaf.
7.Far leaf from the last feather tail touch the end of the arrows.

Those are the preliminary discovery. I have another 600 1996P quarters to see.

Thanks for inputs please.
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Eager to see full, large and sharp photos.
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@sil, thx for posting those new pics. I see reeding on the edge so I don't think it was struck outside the collar. I readily admit that don't know about the relative ability of these different alloys to be flattened slightly to make them Texas-sized. I'm just not sure what else it could be though. Looking forward to reading replies from others!
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Can you put this quarter under a normal quarter and take a pic straight on? That would help a lot.
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@Make yes I will do tomorrow morning if do not disturb. For today my eyes come flu.

@ Spence: Thanks for input, me I thinking if it is not a coin from the lab where they produce the dies. I know they test to see how the strike go on a vertical press, to see if the die design meet the standards. This it is just a supposition not something knotweed. The coin could not speak, damage.

Anyways, till now show some different reverse design characteristics. I have two: this one and another one complete normal.

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@Make, you ask an overlap two coins 1996P photos. Up it is the normal one and the second bottom the intruder. I took the photos on different lights.


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It is not the discovery of America, it is something was happened and we can resolve this to have the knowledge. If was not a little bit different on design I was not care about. I do no look for values, I look for differences and process errors.
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@ COOP, sorry I do not understand the photos. Is my ignorance, please help me with.
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Is it out of round or just the way you have the pic angled?
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Well if the coin was altered because of a cracked collar, the outside edge of the reeds will show widened reeds:
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But an over wight coin doesn't mean it is wider. Maybe taller on the central area of the coin. But the planches are not weighed. Just gold coins planchets are weight. There are tolerances that are normal for coins:
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Thank you very much COOP. Well appreciate.
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