1957 Lincoln Memorial Cent With A 57/57?

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junjiesalvador Valued Member Philippines 212 Posts	Posted 01/31/2009 04:21 am Hello, Could this be a 57/57 or just die wear? Thanks junjie Report this Post to the Staff

coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 01/31/2009 12:41 pm Looks like a normal 1957 cent to me. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 01/31/2009 1:38 pm Is that notching on the 5 ? John1 Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 01/31/2009 3:15 pm None that I can see. Report this Post to the Staff
junjiesalvador Valued Member Philippines 212 Posts	Posted 01/31/2009 6:04 pm I believe there is a notching at the bottom tip of the 5. Try darkening the pic. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 01/31/2009 8:28 pm It could possibly have notching in the bottom of the 5, but that's more likely something that transferred fromt he working hub to the die than anything else. It's not a doubled die, because not only is the notch in the wrong place to be a doubled die, but the type it would have to be to have a notch there would show stronger doubling on the 7 than the 5...which isn't there at all. Not every notch means a doubled die. Most of the time they are somethig else. ONE of the characteristics of most types of doubled dies is notching - but notching by itself on one device without doubling anywhere else means nothing, really. Report this Post to the Staff
junjiesalvador Valued Member Philippines 212 Posts	Posted 02/01/2009 02:21 am Thanks coppercoins, you stated "...but notching by itself on one device without doubling anywhere else means nothing, really". Okay I understand, but for an extra spread or extra bar in lets say just one letter would already suffice as a doubled die, and does not need additional doubling somewhere else, is that correct? Report this Post to the Staff
basicbob101 Pillar of the Community United States 819 Posts	Posted 02/01/2009 07:48 am I must be seeing things, but I see a faint trace of a 5 and 7 protruding to the left edge, ever so slightly. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 02/01/2009 09:01 am It really depends on where that spread would be. If it's in one of the places that 'makes sense' for the coin to be a doubled die in the classic sense, there's nothing wrong with listing them and calling them doubled dies. But a notch in a single letter where IF that notch was a part of a doubled die there would certainly be notching elsewhere, and that elsewhere notching simply isn't there, then we have th examine other causes of the notching. That's the case this time. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/01/2009 09:29 am Here is another example of a notch that is not a doubled die. There is nothing doubled, it is just part of the design for that year. On a real doubled die more areas would be affected. https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...op_008PR.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._COOP_01.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...P_1-R-II.jpg Report this Post to the Staff
junjiesalvador Valued Member Philippines 212 Posts	Posted 02/01/2009 8:53 pm Thank you all. I really don't care if this coin is doubled die or not but it's fun learning from it. Are those some doubling where the arrows are or just die wear? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/02/2009 5:05 pm Hard to tell on a circulated coin. Damage happens even on coins that just left the mint. If it was it would be very minor, so I saying no. Report this Post to the Staff
junjiesalvador Valued Member Philippines 212 Posts	Posted 02/02/2009 9:17 pm Okay thanks coop and for the pics too. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 02/02/2009 9:23 pm While you may have notches on all the corners you point to, I don't see all of them, and the notches you see on the 5 do not match each other. They would have to match the position and spread of each other for this to be a doubled die. Report this Post to the Staff
Jazzcoins Valued Member United States 301 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 1:18 pm coppercoins is right there is no notching on the 57 it's not a doubled die I think what I'm seeing is Machine Doubling if you look to the left of the 7 and the 5 It looks like it has a flat shelf like appearance Just my opinion Jazz Report this Post to the Staff
coindexter Pillar of the Community United States 869 Posts	Posted 02/03/2009 2:14 pm How about this one. Is it also notched or just a MD also? Having on just one number. Report this Post to the Staff
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