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1972 LMC - Uncirculated Coin Set Damaged 1c?

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Hi All,

This is something I haven't seen before. Still in undamaged plastic in the coin set. I have this Lincoln Cent. It looks like PMD, but it's curious that it was packaged up... damaged at the mint? What are your thoughts?

Thanks!
-GB

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 Posted 03/31/2022  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is PMD from manipulation of the coins. Damage.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can we see a pic of the whole set?
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We see damaged coins in uncirculated sets here occasionally, but typically it is obvious where the plastic film crimping machine caught the rim of the coin. Yours is a more extreme example and I'm not sure how that would have happened without there being significant damage to the plastic film.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, would like to see a couple pics--front and rear--of the entire set. Does look fun.
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Most unusual for sure.
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Note the "ER" area distortion on the rim. That is post strike damage to the coin.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Is it a true set? Or who made up it? I go along with the experts here. That coin has PMD.
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 Posted 03/31/2022  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GBiscuits to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't speak to its full chain of custody - I bought online. but I will say it looks legit sealed and the seal/ film has no damage... Here are some more photo's..

As a semantic thing if it's sealed at the mint how can it be Post Mint Damage? :P


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Anyone think we should bother Mike on this one?
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I'd love to hear what he has to say
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As a semantic thing if it's sealed at the mint how can it be Post Mint Damage?

when we say 'post mint damage' I think we are usually referring that it got damaged after it was struck at the mint, which makes it damaged and not an error. Any number of things could have happened to it while it traveled from the striking chamber to the packaging department.
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It would be Post Strike damage. Don't take it out of the OGP. That proves it was damaged at the mint. Might not be an error, but still probably one of a kind conversation piece.
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Am I seeing a D mint mark? The date and possible MM seems out of alignment. Even if the mint mark does not exist, is the date properly aligned?
As mentioned earlier, where is the corresponding damage to the packaging? PMD of this significance would surely be evidevident on the sealed set. I don't see any.
Perhaps someone for some reason, invested in the equipment to reseal UNC sets that duplicates original mint packaging to mess with peoples heads.
So, what is the most probable scenario. You must chose one of the aforementioned circumstances and back it up with definitive evidence to the contrary or just say " I'm really not sure about this one.
I am not sure about this one. I do not know how any can offer a definitive opinion at this point.
Perhaps it is the same culprit that provided the 2006 D nickel to Tropicalbats.
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@dowhat Definitely a D mark. agreed it will probably be a mystery, but a fun item none the less.

The alignment of the MM may be due to the damage. It was difficult but I got a shot of the rim where the damage can be seen...

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@Dearborn I was being cheeky about PMD language... but your explanation is on point - Thank You

If there's a chance its not PSD/PMD would love Mike's opinion... but it's likely Post strike damage based on what everyone says...

Thanks,
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@Dearborn I was being cheeky about PMD language

I know, I saw an opportunity to get another 'quality post in'

Nice edge on picture you posted. the coin looks tweaked a small amount.
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