1878 8TF VAM 14.20 Morgan Dollar - Coin Community Forum

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Bluemagoo New Member United States 28 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 2:49 pm Hey all- I recently attributed an 1878 8TF Morgan, VAM 14.20 in MS condition. This is a Hitlist VAM with less than 2 dozen known to exist. What would be your ballpark value for this coin? Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff

Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 2:59 pm We would need pics! to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 4:48 pm I don't know of any MS examples yet, I know an EF in details sold in 2007 for close to $5K at a Scotsman auction. Jeff Oxman or Michael Fey would by good guys to contact on this one, also could try John Roberts (ANACS). "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Edited by westcoin 04/21/2022 8:18 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bluemagoo New Member United States 28 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 5:53 pm I just got it back last week. One of the rarest VAM's I have found and attributed but no comparable examples(none in MS) and very small population. Thoughts? Report this Post to the Staff
Bluemagoo New Member United States 28 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 6:54 pm @livingwater. Wrong coin. This is VAM 14.20 not VAM 14.2. The 14.20 has less than 24 known examples and this is the only one in MS. This isn't a coin you'd find on the bay. Report this Post to the Staff
livingwater Pillar of the Community United States 2237 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 7:01 pm Okay, wrong coin. I deleted my post for the VAM 14.2. Your VAM-14.20 is really nice. Edited by livingwater 04/21/2022 7:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bluemagoo New Member United States 28 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 7:37 pm Thanks @livingwater. Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 8:19 pm WOW! Have you posted this on VAMworld yet? "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 8:26 pm You may want to post some close-ups. PCGS is not the most reliable source for attributions... Report this Post to the Staff
-makecents- Pillar of the Community United States 8775 Posts	Posted 04/21/2022 9:56 pm I'm with Dave but for you, hope it is. -makecents- Report this Post to the Staff
livingwater Pillar of the Community United States 2237 Posts	Posted 04/22/2022 06:59 am There are minor differences between the more common 14.2 and your rare 14.20. You could post close-up pics of the coin here and on Vamworld to get more opinions. The obverse is clashed and has a die crack like the 14.2. I assume PCGS got it right. If so, a great find! Edited by livingwater 04/22/2022 07:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 04/22/2022 09:17 am The die crack from the hair up to the cap fold looks like VAM-14.2 to me. Report this Post to the Staff
Bluemagoo New Member United States 28 Posts	Posted 04/22/2022 5:12 pm I'm traveling but will post pics when I get home. Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 04/22/2022 5:31 pm This would be big news in the VAM world community for sure. I would think Jeff Oxman has one as he had the first complete 8TF set I know of, at least at the time of the first edition of his and Les Harnett's book he did, (I was one of the helpers on that project and listed in the acknowledgement section). This MS63 if it's indeed the 14.20 is quite a few grades above any other I know of. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
livingwater Pillar of the Community United States 2237 Posts	Posted 04/22/2022 7:36 pm Just trying to help here. I'm no expert. My knowledge of VAMS is very limited. The VAM-14.20 pics on Vamwold don't seem to have the obverse clash and die crack which is on the VAM-14.2. Here's a VAM-14.20 on PCGS site, graded AU53. It doesn't have the clash, die crack either to my eyes. I had to downsize this pic to download it and it got out of focus. Both the VAM-14.2 and VAM-14.20 have lines in the cotton bolls. One indicator difference is the length of the triangle raised part from the top of ear going down, which in medical terms divides the fossa areas. The VAM-14.2 is shorter while the VAM-14.20 is longer which goes further past the tragus, see pics. Bluemagoo, if your coin is the long one I assume it is a VAM-14.20 but with clash and die crack? That would be very cool. Edited by livingwater 04/22/2022 11:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 05/01/2022 9:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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