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1961 D Weight 2.6g Penny On A Dime Planchet?

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Well fellas I believe I finally found a error coin! I may be wrong but I believe I got a 1961 D Lincoln Cent struck on a dime planchet. It's jumping back and fourth on the scale between 2.5g and 2.6g. To bad it's not in better condition if it's the real deal like I'm hoping for. From the images what does everyone think? I took a video of me weighing a nickel then the penny to show the scale was accurate but it won't let me upload it. If anyone wants to see it let me know I can email it to you.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it clearly can't be a dime planchet, if it was it would be silver, not copper. There is some evidence of damage on the obverse rim, better pictures may show if it was an underweight planchet or just damaged.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. Intentionally 'ground off' edges?
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 Posted 04/22/2022  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bluemagoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks damaged and ground down which will drop the weight. Also, wrong color for dime planchet.
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 Posted 04/22/2022  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you show us a good closeup of the edge?



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The rims have been removed intentionally to make it the size of a dime.
You can see grind marks on the left of the Obverse.
Also a dime planchet would weigh 2.27 g
This was sometimes done so it would fit in a dime slot machine.
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The coin is the exact size of a dime width and all. And actually the weight of a 1961 dime was 2.5 grams according to the Red Book, not 2.27 grams. I'm not the greatest at this but I have done a little knowledge reading to try and get better at this and that's just what I've read so forgive me if I'm wrong. I do see the scraping mentioned but the reverse isn't as bad as the obverse. Some of the wording is partially cut off and the rim of the coin is very smoothly not rigid or ground down on the outer rim. I'll put it under the microscope and upload some better images here shortly.
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Not a dime planchet, deliberate damage ground down to imitate a dime. No need for more photos.
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Back in the day then, they would alter a cent to use it as a dime in a vending machine to buy a 10 cent soda for one cent.
Some were altered in an acid bath:
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Some were altered like this coin reduced around the edge of the cent to make it into the size of a dime:
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So the coin is not a wrong planchet error, it was an altered coin, to fool a vending machine.

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Did it a lot back in the 60s. I hope the statutes of limitations has run out
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And actually the weight of a 1961 dime was 2.5 grams according to the Red Book, not 2.27 grams.

That is a silver dime that weighs 2.5g, a regular dime weighs 2.27g
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 Posted 04/22/2022  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But this coin is not silver. It is copper.
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But this coin is not silver. It is copper.

I realize that but the OP thinks that his "dime" planchet is within spec as the Red Book states the weight for a dime planchet is 2.5g .I was simply pointing out that the Red Book weight was for a silver dime, not a regular dime.
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Altered doesn't mean exact. It just needed to fool the vending machine. The coin is worth one cent. (if you can get that)
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10-4 thanks for the help guys saved me money now I know not to send it in. I believe I'll give up with this error coin search it's obviously not going anywhere for me lol I'll just go back to hunting MS coins. Spent a lot of money on books and read a lot of these post to try and figure it out but obviously I'm just gullible like a lot of new collectors. I tell myself everyday ever coin you look at don't have errors HaHaHa! Thanks for all the help fellas I'll maybe see y'all in the non error forms later on hopefully:)
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And I do understand now that it's not a silver coin nor a dime planchette but I still stick with the fact that all dimes from 1946-1964 were 2.50 grams not 2.27 grams that started in 1965 to date. Yah your right that's not a dime planchette for sure I guess the excitement of it weighing what a 1961 dime would have weighed got me excited. As I stated already I'll stick with graded coins I don't want to flood the error page with my fakes hahaha. Have a blessed day folks and again thank you so much for all the help and knowledge that was accurate.
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