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 Posted 04/25/2022  09:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hidalgo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering how I would catalog modern Washington quarters

Concerning the following coins:

* 50 State and Territory Quarters (1999 - 2009)
* America the Beautiful Quarters (2010 - 2021)
* Washington Crossing the Delaware (2021)
* American Women Quarters (2022 - 2025)

Are these commemorative coins? Type coins?

Are the American Women Quarters considered to fall under Washington quarters, even though the obverse (heads) differs significantly from the original Washington quarter?

Thank you in advance.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what you mean by "catalog," but I would consider these as all regular circulation issues, so not commemorative...even though they commemorate stuff. Just an awful lot of changes of the reverse design. I suppose you could call them "type coins" since I believe most people would put one from each of those 4 categories into their type set. In fact, every single coin is probably a different type, but it isn't feasible to put hundreds of different modern Washington quarters into a type set.
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 Posted 04/25/2022  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are different Quarter types, the latter series being more thematic than commemorative.
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Could all of these Washington quarters be considered as "circulating commemoratives"?

And a similar question -- do the changing designs on the Native American dollar coins and Innovation Dollars make them "type" coins? I presume these can be categorized as non-circulating commemoratives?
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I would categorize them as;

silver issues ('32 - '64)
clad issues ('65 -'75)
bicentennial ('75 - '76)
clad issues ('77 - '98)
states coins ('99 - '08)
district ('09)
territories ('09)
AtheB ('10 - '21)
wcd ('21)
w ('22 - ?)


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I would amend that with...

American Women 2022-2025
Semiquincentennial 2026
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They are different Quarter types, the latter series being more thematic than commemorative.

You learn well, grasshopper!

A few(?) years back, I posted about this topic. If you're interested: Commemoratives Vs. Thematics.


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A few(?) years back, I posted about this topic. If you're interested: Commemoratives Vs. Thematics.
Well worth the read!
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I suppose you could call them "type coins" since I believe most people would put one from each of those 4 categories into their type set. In fact, every single coin is probably a different type, but it isn't feasible to put hundreds of different modern Washington quarters into a type set.


It's interesting that a serious type coin collector of quarters will include the motto/no motto & arrow/no arrow Seated Liberty quarters, along with Type 1, 2 & 3 Standing Liberty quarters, but will settle for just one State Quarter, one ATB Quarter and one American Women's Quarter in their "feasible" type sets.
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...but will settle for just one State Quarter, one ATB Quarter and one American Women's Quarter in their "feasible" type sets.
They have to, otherwise the type set would include complete sets of those as well. And since I do (or will) have those sets, I guess I can call them part of my 7070 annex.
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In terms of the semantics of what to label these coins as, I would be reluctant to label them as "circulating commemoratives". The 1976 bicentennial quarter is a circulating commemorative; so are the Lewis and Clark nickels and the four special 2009 Lincoln pennies. But the State Quarters do not really "commemorate" anything, other than the existence of the various states. The Crossing the Delaware quarter is kind-of commemorative, but the 245th anniversary of an event is a rather odd year to celebrate. And the Prominent Women Quarters, likewise, don't really commemorate anything either, other than "certain women existed, and did things".

A "commemorative" coin celebrates a significant event actually happening (such as the Moon Landing, or a new king ascending the throne, or the overthrow of a dictator), or the significant anniversary of a significant event happening (eg. the Bicentennial quarter).

I think "thematic coins", or "thematic coin series" for the multiple-year sequences of coins, would be an adequate label. Alternatively, one could consider them "propaganda coins", as their purpose is to proclaim a message the government wants the users of the coins to hear.
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As for the question "are they type coins", the logical answer is "yes". They are all different designs, therefore different "types". A "complete type set of US coins" must include one of each design.

The Krause catalogue of world coins assigns numbers to coins based on type. These numbers are assigned to American coins as well; though few people within America use KM numbers for American coins, most of those of us who live outside America, and for whom American coins are "just another foreign coin series", use KM numbers to sort and classify our American coins.

And every single State Quarter design, every single ATB design, etc, all are assigned separate KM numbers, as you can find out readily enough by looking up US coins on a foreign-derived world coin database, like the French-sourced Numista website.

KM numbers are assigned to coins in the order the coins were issued. Thus, Washington silver quarters are KM# 164 - they were the 164th coin design issued by the American government. Washington cupronickel-clad quarters are KM# 164a, the variety suffix "a" indicating the change in alloy. Bicentennial quarters are KM# 204, Delaware 1999 quarters are KM# 293 (with the silver proof version KM# 293a), Pennsylvania quarters are KM# 294, and so forth. Maya Angelou quarters are KM# 766 - indicating the rather large number of different coin types the US Mint has put out in the past couple of decades.

A "complete type set of US coins", by the Krause definition, would include every single one of the gold coin types, as well as every single one of the "classic commemoratives", every single one of the modern commemoratives and every denomination of every bullion coin design. Every coin type the US mint has ever put out, except for patterns and errors.
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So I guess this makes me more of a "type" collector instead of a commemorative collector

But I also collect commemorative coins so I'm some kind of hybrid collector

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Are the American Women Quarters considered to fall under Washington quarters, even though the obverse (heads) differs significantly from the original Washington quarter?
Yes! Consider the Jefferson nickel that had 3 different obverse designs in the 3 consecutive years (2004, 2005, 2006). All are considered Jefferson nickels (the original obverse design preceding 2005, 2005, and 2006 and later).
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A subset of a larger set, in my opinion. My "original" Washington quarter set runs 1932 to 1998. All the other (sub)sets get the own Dansco albums.
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