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1874 CC Trade Dollar Authentic

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This coin tested good on the sigma for 90% pre silver .
It has a chopmark
Reverse has some PVC but not bad.
Looks maybe F-12?
Question is the CC does not look altered but I have not seen any
1874 CC with this mint Mark.
Does this look real?
Otherwise it looks like A well used Trade dollar to me.
I can return it but only if its in there packaging so I dont have time to send for grading sadly as I have wanted one of these.
I have been looking at graded ones but pricing gets high.

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The obverse has a sandblasted look to it and I don't think it will grade straight. I would wait for a more appealing example. VF details cleaned.
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 Posted 05/26/2022  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure it has been cleaned though it has decent eye appeal . Authenticity is my main question on this one.
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Agree that the surfaces look somewhat abraded. VF details seems about right. It looks like there are several mintmark varieties for the 1874-CC. This list is from PCGS CoinFacts:

Circulation strikes: Varieties of mintmark sizes have been chronicled as follows:

1. Micro cc: Breen-5786. Mintmark. 74 mm high; .75 mm spacing between C's. Rare.
2. Minute CC: Mintmark .84 mm high; .4 mm spacing between C's.
3. Minute CC: Mintmark .9 mm high; .75 mm spacing between C's.
4. Medium CC: Mintmark 1.1 mm high; .55 mm spacing between C's. Dot on 8 of date on obverse.
5. Medium CC: Mintmark 1.1 mm high; .6 mm spacing between C's. Slight doubled die on reverse.
6. Tall CC: Mintmark 1.17 mm high; .6 mm spacing between C's.

Here's a graded one with the same MM as this one.
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Thanks Zurie that mint mark looks close . I must of missed that as I've been looking all over . Coin has quite a few small contact marks though coin is decent in hand but between the chopmark and surface look I'm sure it would detail . Still looks nicer than anything less than 550 on the bay and I paid 385.00
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Not an attractive specimen even if genuine.
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The mint mark looks fine. I do not see any red flags. F Details.
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I ended up sending it back . Since I was not sure and by the time it gets graded I would be out of luck if it came back non verifiable
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If genuine, I'd kept it, unless you're seeking a BU set.
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Good decision.
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I think you made the right choice. If you are patient, the right one will come along and you will know it when you see it.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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F-VF Details(heavily schrached)
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You really should have had alefzero take a look at it.
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Dave he did , He was not sure either.
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It looks like there is a small die gouge at the top of the D in DOLLAR that is also present in the PCGS graded coin, suggesting they are from the same reverse die. But even if it's authentic, I think you were wise to return it and wait for a more attractive example.
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Looks genuine but harshly cleaned. F details.
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