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Forum Mom
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wonderful coins! I really want to hear what Swamperbob has to say about these!
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Moderator
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Are those pin holes in the 1813 Santiago 8 reales?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very nice. Tell Carl hello for me! How are you going to sell them? On the site here or try on another site like ebay? |
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Forum Mom
 United States
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No pin holes. I think you are seeing small pieces of lint from the envelopes that I am storing them in. They will be sold on ebay. At least three of the five total coins will be listed tonight to end next Thursday. I may do all five of them this week (4 and 8 reales) but I'm not sure yet. |
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Forum Mom
United States
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I have heard from Carl Clegg regarding two of the 8 reales coins (1739 Mexico and 1813 Potosi) listed. Apparently, they are counterfeits with forged COA's. I have ended the auctions for those two coins, but urgently recommend that no one bid on the remaining 4R or 8R coins until I hear from him to verify which coins are genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Susanlynn9- really!?! Gah! I'm sorry to hear that. How was Carl Clegg able to determine that these are fakes?
well, now that I look a bit more closely, the 9 and the "MF" of the 1739 really don't look quite right, and the same can be said of the surfaces of the 1813.
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02/13/2009 8:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Carl is really knowledgeable about Pillars and has a great website for information. If you have never visited it, I highly recommend a look. He has also put a disclosure on his website that his certificates are being counterfeited. He has a nice section on fakes and counterfeits within the website.
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Wow, even COA's are being forged! The coins are still very nice fakes.
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Forum Mom
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The reason that disclaimer is on the columnarios site is because of the auctions that I had running. Apparently, the person who consigned these to me is a big distributor of counterfeits. After the emails verifying that the rest of the coins were counterfeit, Carl called me. We had a very nice conversation and I am very grateful that he alerted me to these coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm very glad to hear you were forewarned before these coins sold and reflected back on you.  Quote:
Apparently, the person who consigned these to me is a big distributor of counterfeits. I can only guess he didn't think you'd take due diligence and check with an expert? Oopsey.  I hope this person's dealings become a matter of public record. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have no expertise on the Mexico and Santiago coins. It seems likely that they would pass as genuine to a casual collector. The Argentina (Rio de la Plata) coin however looks suspicious. It has granular surfaces and has weak details which I don't think is typical. The date numerals are poorly formed. For comparison, here is my 1815 specimen of this type, graded AU-55 by PCGS:   |
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