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Doubled Feather Buffalo Nickels: Two 16ddo Found!!

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That's cool...congrats!
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As an adjunct to this thread, I thought it would be relevant to talk about what I have learned.

I, too, thought that these were simply more examples of Machine Doubling when I viewed them the first time weeks ago and agreed with the assessments of other. I do not have the knowledge of many here on the forum but feel fairly competent in IDing MD. What I have learned is that there is true die doubling that can look so much like MD that it can fool some of the best trained eyes in collecting. Experience alone is not enough. All the hour over the scope did not have me prepared to ID these coins. It took mycrob's knowledge of and experience with Buffalo nickels to allow him to ferret these out. What I have learned is to not be too quick to discount something and when in doubt open the book.

I guess just because it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it is not cause to stop analyzing.

Thx, mycrob for sharing the finds and the lesson.

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When you opened this thread, just goes to show you were right and others were wrong. Great finds and congratulations
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 Posted 05/02/2009  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rustyboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This was better than the 48 hours mystery! Congrats on a great find. Really justifies all the time we spend looking at coin after coin.
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Good stuff !

We must remember, as collectors, to never discourage the search. Besides being just one of the fun things to do with coins, it can be the best way to get more for your money. If you've seen one- you haven't seen 'em all ! Everybody wants a deal, but not everyone wants to put in the time it can take to get that deal.

Congratulations on your finds ! Don't it feel nice !!
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I stumbled on this post only today! I too was confused by the comments of some early posters. Why wouldn't somebody search his dateless for any scarce varieties? Why would anybody search a box or bag of Lincolns? For the Fun of it! Finding a scarce or rare variety is an added bonus of knowledge and a keen eye! I'm very happy you stuck with it and sent both in to be slabbed! Wish my eye sight was better I got a bag of dateless my father pulled out of circulation in the '50's and 60's.
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Thanks everyone for the nice comments. All I can say is that you have to persist in finding those rare varieties. Don't give up!
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Hey mycrob, congratulations!

To answer half of your previous question about populations.. PCGS has 4 at AG-3, none graded lower, 144 total population for the 1916 DDO.
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I believe ANACS has graded 101 before my 2, 30 of which were graded 1-3. I suppose NGC has graded some as well, but don't know how many. With the 144 at PCGS and estimate another 100 at NGC, suggests maybe 350-400 are graded, and then probably some more are not graded. But some of the graded ones are likely the same coin re-submitted to different gtrading agencies or to same one hoping for better grade.
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mycrob wrote:


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Because it's fun, I enjoy doing it and I may find something cool.


ABSOLUTELY!

It keeps me off the streets and out of the bars! You go, mycrob!
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I read every single post in this thread and admire you sticking to your opinion, just a question, how much do dateless Buffalo nickels go for?
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Grey sheet bid on dateless buffalos is right around 15 cents each, though usually they sell to the public for 20-30 cents apiece. Still not bad to pick up such old coins for 3-5x face value!
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2 and 5 are great specimens of double die
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Photo number four is the 1916 doubled die obverse, easily identifiable by the doubled ribbon ties and the doubled feather tip. A SEGS slabbed 1916 dateless doubled die obverse recently sold for over $300 so they are certainly worth looking for. The grade given for this dateless piece by SEGS was fair-02. A most interesting and nifty find.
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Congratulations -- great finds, I did not see the photos until after I made my first post. Now the next questions is, are the better dateless or with the doubled date restored using nic-a-date?
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