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Looks like it to me. Nice find
Incredible images too, thanks.
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Agree the pics are great, but could that just be a planchet flaw?
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I will say those are great photos.
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I'm with Spence. This looks like a defective planchet, not a rim burr. I don't see the signature shape like a comma or boomerang and this anomaly looks chiseled instead of smooth.
Really nice error!
I'm amazed at the improvement in image quality over the last couple of years we are seeing on the CCF. I would think most of it is due to the latest batch of Smartphone cameras. The images here are wonderful!
I'm one of the holdouts... I don't even have a cellphone yet, but I hope to get one soon. I'm shooting with an old Nikon DSLR and hope to upgrade my setup soon. I may have to setup a "Go Fund Me" so I can afford to get the one I'd like to have.
@CoinHI what setup are you using to image coins?
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Have to agree. Damaged planchet.
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Maybe late on this post, sorry. Look clear we have a defect planchet due to the poor mix of alloy. It is an 1969 coin so probably in few years the all piece in that part will go away. The time will ask his price.
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 damaged planchet, possibly this planchet came from the end or side of a stock roll. Edited by Wrekkdd
07/23/2022 03:32 am
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what setup are you using to image coins? Thanks for the great comments on the photography everybody! I am using a custom setup from macrocoins.com by Ray Parkhurst. It's a Canon Rebel T7 and I use stacking software for the macro shots. Those macro shots are multiple photos blended together to keep multiple depths in focus. I like stacking but the subscription runs out in a couple weeks and I'm not sure I'll re-up it. I've been using this setup for a year now and while I get positive feedback on the photos in general, I've never seen this much of a response to my photos. There are a couple reasons I believe this is happening. My last couple posts I changed the orientation of the coin under the camera and this has helped clear up glare resulting in smoother overall lighting. I should have done this sooner. The second reason is the new Pixlr Image Optimizer. Before, I would edit photos on my phone then upload, now with the new Optimizer I'm able to see the larger screen version and edits are looking better I feel. I've always really enjoyed your photos Yokozuna so no need for changing it up imo  |
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Thanks for the feedback on this CCF!
I had thought about a planchet issue too but felt that the piece struck through matched the missing area on the rim. So with a flawed planchet, is there not a struck through designation?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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A flawed planchet happens before the coin is struck, sometimes before the blank is even punched there can be a flaw.
With a detached rim burr it is detached during the strike, therefore for a coin to be struck through its own rim burr it would have to be struck twice, which they didn't do with business strikes so I don't think that's a possibility, or at least a really slim one.
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07/23/2022 05:00 am
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This was struck on a damaged planchet, but more precisely it was struck through a rim burr, which was retained. Thus the OP is correct in their assessment.
You can see exactly where the metal originated from on the edge of the planchet and where it is now, after the strike. The burr was likely still attached to the planchet prior to striking. When the dies came together, the burr was folded inward, and it remains there still.
Admittedly, the shape of the burr is slightly different than what is typically seen. However, burrs on planchets can occur in numerous ways, so it should be expected that there are some oddly shaped burrs! In this case, I believe the shape is somewhat distorted due to the metal flow as "ONE" was being filled in with metal from the burr.
Edited by ErrorCoins222
07/23/2022 07:17 am
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Really nice photos Interesting issue. I have no idea which it could be. Can't wait to find out. |
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Admittedly, the shape of the burr is slightly different than what is typically seen. However, burrs on planchets can occur in numerous ways, so it should be expected that there are some oddly shaped burrs! In this case, I believe the shape is somewhat distorted due to the metal flow as "ONE" was being filled in with metal from the burr. I like this explanation, thanks. "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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I'm on the flawed/defective planchet team. IMHO, this missing metal happened after the planchet exited the upturning mill for applying the proto-rim.
Also, this looks a lot like an incomplete alloy mixture as Silviosi mentioned.
Does the rim area above IN, on the obv, wrap around from the other side?
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