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Is There A Real 1935 DDR Buffalo Nickel In This Group?

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First - please believe me that the date on all three of these coins is 1935. I'm not trying to trick anyone, I just don't see the benefit of showing the obverses of these coins...and I'm lazy and don't wish to photograph them if I don't have to. There are three stories behinnd these 3 coins. I bought one of the coins as a genuine 1935 DDR from a friend who told me it was the more desirable FS-018 variety. At the same time that I bought it from him, he gave me another and told me it was the less dramatic and less desirable FS-018.1 variety. Finally, there's a coin in this group that I found in a batch of nickels, but my friend assures me it's just hub-doubling. The photos, below, are numbered 1, 2 and 3. I'm not convinced of ANYTHING my friend told me, and I don't feel I have the expertise, myself, to make the call. I would love to hear some other opinions on these.... Thanks!
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 Posted 02/15/2009  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jazzcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say the first one looks like a doubled die but could be DDD.
The second one is a doubled die
The third one is a doubled die

now this is just my opinion


Jazec
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I cant tell if the first one is a doubled die but I am pretty sure the second one is. The third one looks like one too, to bad the coin counter damaged it, especially in the "five cents" where the doubling is most evident.
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Agree on 2 & 3. Looks like they may be from the same die, but I would need better images to see for sure. The #1, I don't see anything on it? Maybe I'm missing something?
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Coop - On image 1, click the image to enlarge it, and then look closely inside the "V" in Five Cents...
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Both 2 & 3 are DDRs. #3 has unfortunately been damaged by a counting machine. Both 2&3 are FS# 5c - 018

Number 1 is not. The shapes of the letters are not correct for the DDR like 2 & 3. Look at the notches on the coins that are on DDRs (2&3) and they do not match up with #1. See the rest about #1 below.

Also, to clear up a piece of terminology, hub doubling is what you want in a doubled die. Saying "just hub doubling" indicates that there may be some confusion as to what is good and what is bad as far as doubling is concerned.

He may have meant that #1 shoes some Machine Doubling and that is a worthless form of doubling that is not a doubled die.

None of these are FS# 5c- 018.1 The one that would be in question since the other two are ....018...would be #1. #1 is not a DDR at all and that is evident by the shapes of the letters , even in this picture. The right side of the N would appear to be wider, and it isn't on your coin. Also, the T of CENTS would appear slightly different in shape and yours doesn't. Lastly, there would be a notch on the upper right of the V and this coin doesn't have it....It therefore is not 018.1

Thanks,Bill
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Foundinrolls - Thank you. That was the answer I wanted, even though I was not sure it was the answer I would get. Coin 1 is the one I found which my friend told me was hub doubling. Coin 2 is the one he said was the FS-018. Coin 3 was the one he said would be the FS-01.1.
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By examining your coin further I would say your friend was right number 1 is a DDR its a doubled die there's notching on the letters with the red arrows I indicated . I would also say a Doubled die like your friend has stated I guess he knows what b he's talking about

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There's no notching visible on that coin and the letters are of normal thickness. It's not a doubled die.
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I don't see any doubled die either. Maybe some closer shots would reveal what you see.
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