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Valued Member
United States
420 Posts |
Hello,
I have a question, is it OK to "haggle" or negotiate prices with coin dealers in their own shops? If so what is appropriate? If a coin is $50 but I'm only willing to go as high as $45 is it appropriate to negotiate that price? More importantly how do I go about negotiating prices?
Thanks, Rich
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Moderator
 United States
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They know what they got the coins for and how much they are making off it it. Always look to find something in the haggling that benefits both parties. Ask how much can be taken off if you get Multiple coins or other kinda package deals.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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It never hurts to make an offer the worst that can happen is a 'No' My local dealers are at the point where they will just quote me the lowest price they are willing to sell for. The ones that stick by the marked prices get less business but I guess they make up for it by making more per coin.
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 United States
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As I stated in another thread, coin dealers are feeling the pinch of the economy as well. I was just at the Long Beach Coin Show and saw several reduced prices on dealers stock. I even picked up a coin that he knocked 15% off the price on the holder. Already was a decent price as marked! It does not hurt to haggle, just be professional about it 
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: If a coin is $50 but I'm only willing to go as high as $45 is it appropriate to negotiate that price? More importantly how do I go about negotiating prices?
First off, know what you're negotiating. Carry a Greysheet or price guide if you need to and have what you want to buy in mind before going in the shop to buy. Browsing is fine but it's easy to over pay when you don't know the market value of a particular coin. From your example: Say Greysheet bid is $35 for the coin priced at $50. You're willing to pay $45 because the coin is a nice example of what you want. Offer $40 and see what happens. Specify that you will pay cash or credit. Be sure to note if sales tax will be collected. The $45 dollars, if it includes sales tax and is paid by credit card might net the dealer $40. If you pay cash and sales tax is added, he nets $45. On big purchases like $20 gold Double Eagles, these things become very significant to the dealer and to your wallet. Do not be afraid to walk away. Also realize that if the coin is PQ for the grade and in demand, it's less likely you'll get much, if any, of a price break. Good Luck!
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 United States
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Because we ask that text messaging abbreviations are not used on the forum we some times have to define other terms found in posts
If you are wondering about the abbreviation PQ used above it is ""PQ," or "Premium Quality" coin
rggoodie aka Richard "catch em doing something right"
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Making an offer is fine, I think, as long as you're not insulting in the offer you make.
I find a lot of dealers will give you a bulk price, though, if you're buying a lot of stuff. I've seen them knock anywhere from $2 to $20 off a final total because you've bought many items.
Important fact that bears some consideration though: With the economic downturn, it is increasingly becoming a buyer's market.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm not much of a face to face negotiator. When I do negotiate, I make sure I have a solid idea of what the item should be priced at and then make an offer. I don't lowball.
So, in your example, if I truly believed that the coin was worth $45, I'd say "would you take $45 for it?". If they say no or make a different offer, I say "let me think about it" and walk away.
The risk is that they come back at $47.50. Some would offer $40 knowing the other guy might then come back with $45, but I don't really like that horse trading strategy.
If I really think the coin is a good buy at $50, I'd just pay the $50 and be done.
Ken
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm a constant haggler with prices everywhere. Even at stores I try to make deals. For example at a place called Menards I offer to take broken bags of dirt off their hands for a big discount. At an appliance store I always say can't you make a better deal than that. Got $300 of a TV that way. Same with a DVD/VHS recorder/player, about 20% off on that. Even stores have a price playable thing if you try. Nothing to loose. I'm a flea market person and have been for many, many years. I would haggle with an angel when my time comes. It's all in fun you know. Nothing to ever loose by haggling. I go to coin shows about 2 to 4 times a month. I would never pay the prices a dealer there is asking. They know I know they raised all their prices as high as possible so they know I will not pay what they are asking anyway. Most people don't. I usually try for about 20% or more off their asking prices. If I don't get it, I just walk away. Even at 20% they sometimes come out way ahead. To me buying is war. Someone just has to win and I try to make it me.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Hello,
OK so, after reading everyone's posts it sounds like the best thing to do is have an idea of what I'm willing to pay for a coin (Modern Commemorative) before I go to my local dealer or a coin show. I'm thinking I'll take my own price list with me and if I can't find the coins on that list but I do find something else I'll also take a price guide with me (Coin Values) or at least a copy of the page I need, sneak a look and take 30% off that price as an idea of what to pay or negotiate. Any thoughts? Am I on the right track?
Thanks, Rich
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Valued Member
United States
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As a follow up question to snitchard's original question, is it better to get a price quote for each individual coin or as a whole lot? For example, currently I go through a dealer's inventory of Lincoln cents and pull out pieces that I am interested in and ask for a price quote. If I like the price I say I'll take it and if I don't I put it back and continue looking until I find the next interesting piece. Is this the proper way or would it be better to pull out all the coins I'm interested in and then get them priced as a lot? Thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As a follow up question to snitchard's original question, is it better to get a price quote for each individual coin or as a whole lot? For example, currently I go through a dealer's inventory of Lincoln cents and pull out pieces that I am interested in and ask for a price quote. If I like the price I say I'll take it and if I don't I put it back and continue looking until I find the next interesting piece. Is this the proper way or would it be better to pull out all the coins I'm interested in and then get them priced as a lot? Thanks.
I would pick out the ones you are interesrted in and try to get a break on bulk.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Most dealers will be more apt to give a discount if you are buying a quantity of coins
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Most dealers will be more apt to give a discount if you are buying a quantity of coins
This is true...but...I have to know each individual price. I hate to buy blindly! I'll get prices on EACH piece, then, when I'm done, add it all up and then negotiate the bottom line.
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Valued Member
United States
439 Posts |
Snitchard, just make sure whatever price guides you use are relevant. Prices on coins are tough to nail down a lot of times and some price guides are rapidly outdated if they were ever accurate at all. You might get a good idea of what a coin is worth by looking at completed auctions on ebay or checking out heritages online auctions and getting a feel for how much coins you're interested in go for in what grade, etc. The more you know the better off you are so homework definately pays off but don't be intimidated. If a deal isn't to your liking just politely bow out and keep looking for the deal you want.
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Valued Member
United States
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No matter what you do, be polite. By doing this alone they will be more willing to do something for you. When it comes to haggling you also want to know if that coin has been there for years collecting dust or a very popular coin. If it has been sitting then they will be happier to haggle but why give it to you for 10% less when the next guy in line will pay full price. Coin shows are different because they expect people to haggle and most likely you will never see them again, but if you do it with your local dealer they will remember you and may start offering discounts or setting similar items aside for you.
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