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The Subtropical Zone Coins - 2018The next issue of coins was for the Subtropical zone. The coin again was released in April, although I am not sure on which date. Unlike with the 2 earlier releases, the mint had seen the popularity of the series and increased the minting numbers. This went up to 600,000 coins per mint in standard quality and 80,000 proof like coins making a total of 3 million standard and 400k Proof coins. This worked as the subtropical coins are much easier to get and are a lot cheaper than the first two issues.  The Obverse remained the same design as 2017 and was only changed for the year (2018) and mint letter for each coin. The Reverse was designed by Patrick Niesel from the Nuremberg region. The goats epitomise the barren and dry landscape along with the rocks and grass and a tree offering shade. The orange ring emphasises the sun.  Colours A= Mirabelle (More yellow/green!), D = Kaki, F = Apricose, G = Sea Buckthorn and J = Orange I love the colour and design on this coin more than the Tropical and the glow when you hold one of them up especially at the sky or sun is just beautiful! These coins are much easier to get than earlier ones and this trait continues with the later issues. None of them should cost much more than 1 - 2x face. Numista even lists prices for them AU, and the mint page mentions they could circulate and were sold at €5 each, hence why some may have. The period of issue was longer from April 2018 to Sep 2019. With the Temperate, Sub Polar and Polar coins, it was decided to move them back to September rather than April for release. One reason may be was that in April 2019 the Bundesbank decided to release a €10 commem coin celebrating the air and it was the 1st of an annual series of a similar type of coin (Polymer rings and metal parts) but slightly larger than the €5 ones. Numista link - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces139022.htmlGerman Mint - https://www.bundesbank.de/en/tasks/...-zone-623286
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07/30/2022 02:04 am
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The coin again was released in April, although I am not sure on which date. Going by my email exchanges with Redlock, I think it was Friday 20th April 2018. Quote:
it seems Redlock is taking care of you too. He certainly is. We have been friends and trading for many years now. Obverse of my 2018 G.  |
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The Temperate Zone coin - 2019The next coin in the series did not arrive until Sep 10 2019, some 17 months after the last one. This would be an ongoing pattern with the last 2 coins also being released in September. 2 reasons, one was to give the new €10 coin series a chance to grow (These were similar to these ones but included coloured metal rings too). The series was not as big a hit and the 2nd and 3rd of the series were also released in September after the first coin. The second which is a guess maybe is that now we approached the colder zones, we see seasons and this coin depicts an autumnal scene, September is the beginning of Autumn in Germany and the rest of the Northern Hemisphere. It seems apt to release a coin depicting autumn in autumn (Although early September is still very green and warm in most parts of Europe, the autumn depicted on the coin has an Octoberish, Novembry feel).  This shot from March 2021 is when I got 3 of these coins quickly, it was the same time Redlock sent me my first tropical coin the G. The scene on these temperate coins shows a hare next to some stylised paddocks and trees in the background. Some are pines, some are deciduous and clearly losing their leaves which lie over the coin next to our lepidine friend, the sky and the fields. The design was by Peter Lasch and again Obverse designs were by Stefanie Radkte and the date was now changed to 2019. The stars on all these coins symbolise the 12 original members of the Euro currency union (Of this has expanded). Of the series, this coin is my favourite along with the Subtropical one - the greens are handled well and the coin has an inviting look to it. Also it portrays we are moving away from the heat of the first two zones and it portrays a colder climate. It was also the most relevant to Germany and most people buying this coin as they are likely to live in a Temperate zone.  Mints and Colours, A = Aquamarine, D = Lime, F = Spring Green, G = Pale Green, J = Dark Green. The colour of the last coin blends well into the colours of the Subpolar coins coming up. Again as with the subtropicals - 600k and 80k proof like per mint. The prices are low too, anywhere between Face and 1.5x for the standard coins and 3 - 4x for a proof. German mint page - https://www.bundesbank.de/en/tasks/...-zone-759958Numista link - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces179888.html
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Obverse of the 2019D 5 euro.  Also the obverse of the 2019 10 euro that you mentioned.  |
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I like how Princetane has photographed the €5 coins very much. It shows how the polymer-ring ''glows'' or ''shines'' when there is a light source behind the coins. The colours of the rings are much more distinguishable when there is light behind them. Example:   It has been fun and a pleasure to provide triggersmob and Princetane with these coins. The 2017 and particularly the 2016 coins are a real challenge. But in return, I have been able to get coins from Australia and New Zealand which are (nearly) impossible to get here in Germany, especially for a reasonable price. I now have very nice sets of current Australian and NZ coins in my collection. A big Thanks to both Princetane and triggersmob. Edited by redlock
07/31/2022 02:42 am
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The colours of the rings are much more distinguishable when there is light behind them. Yes, I found it a bit of a challenge to do that. I used 2 cardboard boxes with a gap between. A piece of black cardboard with a hole, sitting on top of the boxes. Sit the coin over the hole and shine a torch up behind the coin. Quote:
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Those are much better photos than mine Redlock!
I just think they look great at any angle - but those standing up shots of mine are not bad by my photography standards at least. I realised by the time I got to the temperates, the coins were a bit close to me! The F coin looks very washed out!
You will see that when I upload the last 2, the shots come out better. Of all the shots, the subtropicals and tropicals came out the best, then again the colours on those coins are the brightest.
I took them all at around 4.40pm on a day where sunset is 5.30pm - and the sun was setting in that direction. It was a sunny day, but the hedge shadow was blocking the sun - yet a small outline appears as you can see.
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07/31/2022 04:24 am
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As redlock said though, still great pictures.
Really shows the range of colours in each year.
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Slightly off topic question:
Any statements or info known how the polymer ring is expected to withstand time?
As far as I know any plastic ages / gets brittle / discolors over time. Are you concerned at all about how these coins will look in 50+ years?
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Not really because I will be 96. Plus my coins are kept in clear mylar flips, so they are unlikely to degrade before anyone elses.
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Any statements or info known how the polymer ring is expected to withstand time? The plastic is obviously going to last a lot briefer time than the metal. While not as "noble" as gold and silver, ancient Bactrian cupronickel coins prove that cupronickel alloy is long-term stable and can last for thousands of years; these plastic rings will probably lose the beautiful translucent colours within 50 years, and become brittle and fall apart in a couple hundred. Good preservation might slow the process but can't stop it; unlike metal corrosion, plastic degradation still happens inside an airtight container. So eventually, these coins are going to become two coins, which will probably cause some confusion and debate for the archaeologists finding them. My question would be: I assume there's some mechanism in place to prevent the core from rotating inside the ring? Anybody seen any "rotated eagle mint errors" for sale yet? Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Okay before the thread gets too derailed. Compound coins, bimetallic coins, core coins whatever you call them are always going to be at risk. But at the same time, we may invent some technology that will fix them up in the future. If any of my German climate pieces becomes a selection of metal donuts, I will just store all the parts together  I have noticed some of the colour fading on some coins (Check out the 2019J Spring Green coin, looks like Algae Green now) - but the fact of the matter is, no matter how nice and shiny they are, even the strongest coin will decompose over time. Keeping them well packaged or preserved will slow this process down and after I die, who will keep my coins - they may not last much longer than me. Kids might smear their fingers on them, they could end up buried, burned, thrown in a lake or even melted down to make steel for guns to kill the galactic space slugs attacking earth.  Let us all enjoy the beauty of these pieces and other coins we own why we can and stop worrying about what ifs. The fact remains most of us are doing our best to care for our coins and that is in my opinion all you can do. No one can call the future. Do you think anyone 5 years ago (2017 from this post, if you are reading my rant in 2038 or something) would have predicted Covid and chaos its caused.  If it helps, I had a Turkish 1 Lira coin from 2006 a few years ago (2019 - 2020) and the metal core had fallen out of this coin already after 10 or less years and I have read about new English pound coins where the centres popped out very quickly, so its quality control too. I generally assume that German quality standards are high and these coins will last longer than most at least. If they were minted in China, I would be worried. The tone of this reply is getting like the coins as they start to get COLDER   Edited by Princetane
07/31/2022 8:56 pm
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The Subpolar Climate Coin - 2020The 4th of the main series and 5th of the whole series coin was now moving ever poleward with Sub Polar climates and this coin portrayed a much colder and less welcoming landscape than the others.  Natalie Tekampe designed this image of a solitary reindeer standing on a barren rock, no doubt on the barren tundratic coast of Russia, Canada or some other cold place around 70 degrees north. Shown is a weather or oil tower at left and the eroded cliffs in distance. The water is either see or one of the big boggy marsh lakes found in areas with permafrost. The coin shows more a climate at the extreme end of D climates, which start in the temperate zone and can include places like Detroit, Astana, Alexandra, Shenyang and Calgary that have very hot summers and cold snowy winters. This area is more cold winters and barely cool summers. The scene is more reminescent of Aklavik, Nuuk, Dunedin, Barrow, Scotland or Dikson than those other places. The scene must be between late spring and autumn as there is no snow visible and the sea is not icy but open. Still with the tourquoise and blue rings its cold! Basically clear and cold (Probably a few degrees above freezing). The Reverse again is the same as all the 2017 - 2021 coins is by Stefanie Radkte. Also the coin is inscribed "Klimazone der erde" like all the others of the 2017/21 series. This coin caused a real stampede as evidenced by a video on Youtube. Because of initial deadly Covid striking in March/April 2020, it seemed impractical to release any coins in April and the €10 land coin was released the same day as this one Sep 9 2020. The video (Look up German climate coins) shows people extending several blocks down the road and the narrator tells us its mostly for the Subpolar coins and not the Land one. By now people were desparate to complete their sets as the end was in site. Only one more coin design was to come.  Mints A = Celeste Polvere (Who is making up these colour names!), D = Vivid sky Blue, F = Medium sky Blue, G = Capri, J = Magic mint The colour reflect the clear skies above the landscape in these zones. Similar skies are found on clear winter days when the blue is vivid caused by the low sun altitude (We call them blue bell, or blue dome days - sometimes you can see stars and the moon in them). Again anyone buying these coins should view them through a light source like a prism as they look nicer. They are quite squat and easy to stand up. Colours are flatter and darker when on the flat surface. Numista Page - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces187268.htmlGerman Mint page - https://www.bundesbank.de/en/tasks/...-zone-842890Again high mintage figures (600k + 80k) per mint and the coins are easy to get now and cheap ($12 - 13 on Numista). It is the same time I got interested in these coins and Redlock sent me my first two, a Subpolar and a Subtropical. The second Subpolar and my first Temperate arrived a few weeks later in Nov 2020. Just one more coin to go!
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The obverse of the 2020 5 euro.  And the reverse of the aforementioned 2020 10 euro.  |
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