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Edited by raingoddessyume
08/11/2022 11:10 am
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I will have to be honest when I say I know absolutely nothing about this coin you guys. All I know is I found her in one of my favorite estate sale stores and that she had the correct weight. She was just sitting in the display case naked, not even in a baggy, cardboard or anything. She was the siren that called out to me and I know next to nothing about Morgan dollars except what I was trying to feverishly research on the spot in the store. I am sure the clerks were annoyed with me. She only cost me 40 dollars because they said the person who inspected the coin when it came in the store said its was only an AU. Please tell I am not wrong about that at least. She might not be a super high mint state because of the scratches on her face and the field by her mouth but she is far too pretty for an AU status only. Especially when comparing to all the other AU worthy coins in the case. And hey even if I am wrong about this coin this store has been known to get stuff wrong before. They can't even tell the difference between real and fake pearls most of the time. I have purchased so many pearls for rock bottom prices it feels like I am stealing but hey I pay the price they ask for. If knowledge is a crime then so be it. Edited by raingoddessyume
08/11/2022 09:30 am
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vamworld.com is another great resource for detailed information regarding Morgans. Good luck.
PS: She is a real beauty!
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI Edited by NY Islander
08/11/2022 08:59 am
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So Coop, You are saying that raingoddessyumes' coin is or is not a Zerbe? John1  |
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Didn't know a thing about Zerbe special strike coins. Here's the link from CoinWorld because Momma taught me to share. https://coinweek.com/coins/coin-pro...%20in%201921. Here is an excerpt from the Coinweek magazine article about the diagnostics: "The accepted diagnostics of the Zerbe strikes are easily discerned with the naked eye: sharp squared denticles border the rim, flattened stars that distinctly rise above the fields, and bold lettering throughout. The coins also feature two diagonal lines that descend from the denticles to the E and S in STATES. Another line connects the tip of the top serif of C to the denticles on the right side of the coin." And here's the PCGS link; https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-strike/7341And RaingoddessYume I must say you have a very eloquent way of describing your coin. Thanks for your enthusiasm and sharing with us. EDIT: The images at PCGS of a Zerbe Morgan dollar show a coin with no mint mark So it doesn't look like your coin 1921S can be a Zerbe specimen. The article at CoinWorld mentions them being minted from newly arrived dies to the San Francisco mint as a favor to Mr. Zerbe because of his disappointment in the Morgan dollars being minted again. It sounds like the coins must have been struck before the Mint Mark was applied! Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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08/11/2022 9:31 pm
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The accepted diagnostics of the Zerbe strikes are easily discerned with the naked eye: sharp squared denticles border the rim, flattened stars that distinctly rise above the fields, and bold lettering throughout. The coins also feature two diagonal lines that descend from the denticles to the E and S in STATES. Another line connects the tip of the top serif of C to the denticles on the right side of the coin. I do not know from where I have this quote, but it is the best ever I find for describing those coins. |
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Silviosi, that quote was in the magazine article in the link. It was an interesting article.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Oh Yes?, Thanks, I will put a note of the origin in my information's. Manny I have are not with the origins, because at one time I took diff portions of what I read, put in the word document and this. thanks again.
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About 11 years ago, was when I first got into coins and the Morgan dollar was what I first fell in love with. Still to this day, I think it is the best looking U.S. coin, as far as design. At the time, I think the Zerbe strikes were still looked at as being a viable thing but as time has went on, like many other things in the numismatist's world, this idea has changed, with more information coming to light. The top TPG's actually slabbed coins as being Zerbe's, both P and S mints but have backed off from doing that now. The best I can tell, from many things I have read, from multiple sites and threads, they were nothing more than hand picked coins, from early strikes and were definitely nicer than most but not a special strike for Zerbe. I've added the details from PCGS, with highlighted areas. A person who I consider a reputable and very knowledgeable man, who is a member from another site I frequent, wrote this for PCGS. You can make your own decision on this.  -makecents-
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08/11/2022 11:02 pm
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I know every person every person says their coin is special because they want to be the one who found the unicorn and I am certainly not an exception to that rule but I do want to point a couple of things out about my coin that might be ignored on the first glance and I am willing to go to the mat on this one. Maybe I will lose but all the better will I learn.  Her denticles are square and sharp as John1 pointed out that rim looked a little strange. I did little more research and it appears to look like what is called a wire rim on VAM sites. I would need to seek a true Morgan dollar experts opinion who could look at the coin in person. My coins rosy-gold color is almost the same color as the picture provided by PCGS on the 65+ Zerbe that they feature right in the center but more than the color I wanted to point out another similarity that my coin has to the one in this picture is that if you look at the B in pluribus there is a little teeny metal booger near but not on the lower serif. (Gross description I know but I am still learning the terminology so if someone has a better word to describe this popped up feature I am all ears.)  If anything this little hunk of metal is even more pronounced on my coin as it can be seen with the naked eye. I still have so much to learn...  |
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I still have so much to learn.. That is the thing about coin collecting, you can continue to learn forever! Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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raingoddessyume, I'm sorry I did not take the time to congratulate you on your first Morgan dollar, as I already said, my favorite coin, by far. -makecents-
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I did some research on the 1921-S Zerbe Morgan diagnostics and then made a Photoshop image of the areas where the "Lines" connect the ES and the C to the denticles. Each Zerbe coin I looked at had these lines. Click on the picture for a larger image ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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