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1917 Wheat Penny Lamination Error? And DDO?

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 Posted 08/14/2022  11:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add raingoddessyume to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay you guys this coin here is definitely a puzzle. It is obviously worn to heck and back in 105 odd years of circulation but there is just a lot happening with this coin that is hard to ignore.

The Lincoln bust has very few details obviously but it looks raised somehow as if it were double stamped and no one realized it before the penny was beyond well circulated. Or maybe its Machine Doubling and I am just seeing things.

This coin looks like it might possibly have had a mint mark at one point or maybe I am just imagining things to be there when they are not but I just thought I'd mention to make sure. So if I am seeing things that aren't there please be sure to point that out.

I am more interested in figuring out the lamination error on the back because my coin looks like at one point or another came in contact with a raised VBD coin or maybe LIBERTY near the wheat stalk from another coin and it left an impression in the faulty lamination as it flaked off

The coin does weigh 3.0 grams so nothing too suspicious there as far as an error weight would go. So what are your thoughts and would it be worth going through the grading process or is coin pretty much junk at this point?



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 Posted 08/14/2022  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely some reverse lamination going on. The obverse, in my opinion, has too much circulation wear and damage to tell if MDing took place. I see no evidence of hub doubling or of a mintmark.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Long-ago lam, good eye!
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 Posted 08/14/2022  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, but waaaaaaayyyyyy too many photos. One large image of each side would be sufficient.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with all above. Sadly, not seeing any form of doubling on the obverse.
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 Posted 08/14/2022  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...nice pick-up on the de-lamination....keep hunting/posting (few less photos).

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 Posted 08/14/2022  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@rain, here is a link to the varietyvista page for the one known DDO for this year so that you can compare against your own cent:

http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...O%201917.htm
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 Posted 08/14/2022  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note how the '9' will show a split on the inside curve:
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Your coin is showing a lot of circulation flattening. It is not a DDO, but it has a minor lamination issue on the reverse.
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A closer view of a coin circulated a little.
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More circulated coins with a circulation flattening on both them. Note how the "9" is still larger on the DDO? Your coin is from a normal die. Not a DDO.

CoopHome: How to tell a 1917 DDO with circulation flattening compared with a normal coin? DDO shows spread on 9
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 Posted 08/14/2022  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I'm just seeing an old fingerprint on the obverse, but the reverse is a very nice lamination.
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