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1852 5 Kopek Russian Coin BM Mintmark Real?

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 Posted 08/28/2022  02:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 2rtgah678 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I have no idea about russian coins but I found this coin and the seller is asking 30 bucks for it, and ive looked online and seen that the BM mint mark is rarer but from the other coins ive seen the mint mark has looked larger and a little different. so what I'm kinda asking is if its legit. thanks
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 Posted 08/28/2022  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@2rt, can you please post the diameter and weight of this piece? I'd like to compare it against the numista example found here:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces91426.html
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 Posted 08/28/2022  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does not look right. It's one of those heavily counterfeited coins.
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I dont have the coin these are just the sellers images, the seller says its 1.3 inches wide so 33mm and from what I see on numista its supposed to be 35.8mm so I'm guessing its a counterfeit
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 Posted 08/28/2022  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also the date is wrong. Confirms it is a counterfeit.
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I agree the date does not look right (see the 2 on this example):
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6430461
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I don't like the number 2 very much.
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The 5 Kopeck coin struck at the Ekaterinburg (E.M.) mint used this style of 2:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6862592

This gives the possibility that a forger tampered with the mint mark to change the E to a B (explaining the noticed difference in mintmark size).
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