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1972 D LMC - CCl(T1)-1c-1972-D-01

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A recent purchase which really blew me away when seeing it in-hand. The sellers photos did not tell the whole story so I was happy to take some better ones. At first I thought this double clash wasn't listed but I stumbled into the counter clash section of maddieclashes and saw this listed there. It lists two counter clash events but I think there are more. The "Y" on obverse next to the "Y" in LIBERTY and the NW cornice of the memorial on reverse are the two listed. I think bay 2 and maybe 3 are showing a CCL of the columns as well though. I'm also seeing the MM above the "9" in NE area of the memorial. The perfectly spaced double clash on obverse really makes this a stand out "extra prison bars" prisoner cent and I think this is an amazing ADC really. Maybe first strike after clashing?

http://www.maddieclashes.com/cclt1-1c-1972d-01/

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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 08/29/2022  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a great find, might be capsule worthy.
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Very nice and in pretty good condition as well
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That is some impressive clashing, excellent pick up! It always takes me a minute to wrap my head around the counter clashes and how they occurred. I thought it was odd that they don't mention or show a closeup of the date transfer on the listing. I do see the mm you are referring to though and it's oriented correctly too, as far as it's direction, very confusing for me....

Very nice job on the pics, you got the perfect lighting and shadowing to make the clashes stand out.
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Zowie, that's something! Great pics.
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 Posted 08/29/2022  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dito on everything makecents said. Nice find.
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Outstanding clashes!
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That is really spectacular. Amazing pickup and incredible images to show it off even better.

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 Posted 08/29/2022  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't say anything the others haven't. That is a great coin.
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Thanks for the comments CCF!

Thanks for the photo comments too as this error requires a lot of maneuvering and angling to get the right shots.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 08/29/2022  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea that's a top notch die clash there! I recently purchased one myself. A Washington of course.
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Thanks Willburton, I look forward to seeing that clash if you post it.

I forgot to mention that this coin weighs 3.18g and I assume that helps with clashed dies strength of design transfer. I think it would be interesting to know the weights of the coins listed on maddieclashes for this reason.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Here is more evidence of a counter clash not described in the listing. Black arrows indicate clashed event that transferred the design causing counter clash while the turquoise arrows show the counter clash. The "Y" is described in CCL(T1)-1c-1972D-01 but not the "T" because it was a later strike or circulation wear.


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"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Excellent images and a superb pic. Congrats.


Is the extra Y peeking out from behind column 2 and the extra T column 1 in your last image part of the counter clash.
Your images are so nice, part of the left arm of the T looks to be visible on column #1.
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 Posted 08/31/2022  04:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Petespockets55! It's been fun albeit time consuming getting photos of this error.

The Y in bay 2 and T in bay 1 on reverse are from the first clash and the second clash transferred those designs back to the obverse (counter clash). Look where the black arrow is pointing to in bay 1 then look at where the turquoise arrow is pointing to on obverse between the top of T and Y. The top bar of the T clash in bay 1 has a tip of the Y on the left and a tip of the T on the right overlapping it and the gap in between is where the turquoise arrow on obverse is pointing to. This should be a new listing but who knows when maddieclashes will start taking new submissions. This should also be listed in the atypical die clash section.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 08/31/2022  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hail24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that is an amazing coin and the pictures are equally as amazing. Congrats!
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