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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Valued Member
United States
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Are these your pictures? Surfaces just do not look right. Rubbing or burnishing under the buffalo and under the feathers on the obv. I don't think nickel should be so bright.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11880 Posts |
These are the seller's pics. Same seller as the 1914-S.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can't tell if they are overexposed or if it is a polished coin. I would not go $440 but that is me.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm going to wait for this one to arrive. It has the same fake look as the 14-S.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18649 Posts |
definitely the seller. these photos are not good. post in-hand photos not vid for proper assessment. I think the glare is hiding quite a bit here. there are some pretty good hits on the shoulder, hair, brow and cheekbone. will wait for photos
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
11880 Posts |
This came in.  
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18649 Posts |
another tough one to grade. AU55 or MS63 this one is worth finding out what a TPG would think. good buy at that price
Edited by panzaldi 09/13/2022 08:24 am
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Valued Member
United States
480 Posts |
This looks like a professionally treated coin. There was a seller on ebay that does this and if he didn't tell you he did it, some of them you'd think were original.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
A good example for how clash can mimic a double profile (Our own Fortcollins did a great explanation on this awhile back.) See if you can see the ghostly remains of E PLURIBUS UNUM under the chin from clash.
AU55
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Valued Member
United States
480 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
Well I'll attempt to get some more specs on this one since there was no reply to the 14-S in question.
What's the weight on this one? This one does not look original to me either. I'd side with Jerrypicker on the acid treated if it comes in under weight. Similar issues as you're 14-S. The recessed area surrounding the Buffalo are a concern, as they were on the other. Also, the mushiness of the MD is a red flag. It should appear more shelf like with a more defined edge. Yours appears more rounded/blended into the devices which could mean acid treatment that removed. Lack of metal flow lines is also a concern. Be real curious to know the weight.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
797 Posts |
Hmmmmm, surfaces certainly looks off..... I say acid treated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2125 Posts |
Looks too grainy IMO. Looks like a copy and hope I'm wrong. Good luck if sending to TPG.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
 any additional info Numismatic student?
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