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1964-D Washington Quarter. Think It's Finally A DDR

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Added a cop up close of the s's thats what gave me thr dd thoughts


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 Posted 09/11/2022  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like MD to me. What attribution number do you think it might be?
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 Posted 09/11/2022  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that steplike doubling looks like Machine Doubling to me too. On the other hand, the coin is silver so it is still worth keeping.
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Agree, looks like MD.
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Note the affected areas:
1. Machine Doubling affects the outside/inside edges of the devices.
A doubled die show spread in the centers of the devices.
2. Die wear will show on the outside/inside edges of devices in the direction of the closest rim.
A doubled can will always show a spread in the centers of the devices, sometimes showing a split serif on the corners of the devices.
So there is no need to look for a doubled dies on the outside/inside edges of the devices. Look for the spread instead. Don't seen anything there? Move on to the next coin.
3. Machine Doubling removes the contour on the outside/inside edges of the coin, leaving them flat and showing a 90 degree edge where the push ended.
So when searching for doubled dies, look for the spread or distortion on the single squeeze dies, and forget looking at the outside edges of devices.
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Seeing images side by side with a normal coin will help you see if the devices are enlarged or not. Also look at the centers of the devices of closed letters. On these a doubled die will have a smaller opened area because of the spread of the devices. Note this on the image above. Doubled dies are hard to find, but Machine Doubling is common to find. It alters normal die cents and doubled die cents as well.
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Here is an example of MD on a doubled die. Note the date is a doubled die, and the mintmark is normal. (That is because the die creation is one process and the adding of the mintmark back then was a second step. Thus when you see MD on both the date and the mintmark in the same direction, it is Machine Doubling.) Thus look at the yellow arrows on these coins. All are showing the doubled die on the date, but note the affect the Machine Doubling has on these coins? Note the Machine Doubling is in the same direction. So what do learn? That Machine Doubling can happen on doubled dies and regular dies. But Machine Doubling never creates a doubled die. A doubled die comes from a die that has hub doubling on it. They are struck doubled die, but the machine can alter the devices post strike. (true variety collectors prefer to not have Machine Doubling on a doubled die, as it just adds confusion to that die when taking images.)

CoopHome: Will Machine Doubling make it a doubled die? no. a doubled die is from a doubled die. Machine Doubling happens post strike.

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 Posted 09/12/2022  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KerryKz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Soo. Like this is. Maybe or closer at least
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There are many things it could be, but it is not a doubled die. Die wear/machine doubling/circulation damage, vending machine damage, But not a doubled die. Look at the listing for the doubled dies to see what you need to see on a doubled die.
1964 DDO from Philly:
http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...s%201964.htm
1964-D DDO from Denver.
http://www.varietyvista.com/09b%20W...201964-D.htm
Study these and remember back then the Philly mint made all the dies. So the same types of doubled dies could be seen from either mints, as the dies were all made in Philly back then. View these listing as a map. Then you will know what to look for on quarters that year.
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Machine Doubling works for me.
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