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Pillar of the Community
United States
4867 Posts |
I saw silver hit $21/oz this evening. So I was browsing SD Bullion and ASE coins now have a $20 premium! That is absurd paying $20 more than spot!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6384 Posts |
The local shop today had silver eagles at $9 over spot which still seems excessive.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Excessive premiums are probably the most efficient way of killing the market.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2223 Posts |
Some dealers are saying it's taking longer to replenish their stock from wholesalers. They raise the premiums when it's harder for them to order more inventory. I'm seeing more "out of stock" and "expected available in several weeks" on some items. My LCS raised premiums on 90% junk silver when spot went down. He said his wholesaler raised premiums. Silver and gold bars seem to be the best buys currently.
It's smart to shop around for sales and better prices. Nobody knows future prices of stocks/precious metals but IMO I don't think we've seen the worst of lower spot prices yet. Gold has done better than stock indexes so far this year, down less. Silver seems to be rebounding a little.
Edited by livingwater 10/06/2022 07:21 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19146 Posts |
Yes, it's the marketplace--doing marketplace things--warts and all.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
It's the paper market vs the physical market. The premiums people pay on ebay are amazing, everyday.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4867 Posts |
It is hard to accept paying double the spot price. Makes a terrible investment.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Yes, it's the marketplace--doing marketplace things--warts and all. I agree. Pause your purchases; resume stacking after the market regains its senses or you come across an excellent deal.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5394 Posts |
Most cannot accept the reality that there are 2 Silver Markets . The physical and the paper . Several US silver buyers pay well above spot for 90 per cent 64 and earlier . Morgan and Peace dollars are in the stratosphere! Sample Major Dealer buy list on Dollars! CULL WITH DATE NO HOLES $25.00 WORSE THAN CULLS $19.00 G/VG+ OR WITH LITE PROB PRE 21 $29.00 F PRE 21 $33.00 XF PRE 21 $35.25 AU PRE 21 $42.50 AU+ PRE 21 $45.00 BU PRE 21 $50.00 VG+ 1921 MORGAN $30.00 VG+ PEACE $28.00
Edited by Pacificoin 10/06/2022 10:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5178 Posts |
If you are looking to buy bullion but don't want to spend more than a couple hundred dollars and don't want to pay huge premiums, fractional gold is the way to go. For instance, US gold commemoratives and 20 Franc gold coins can typically be bought for less than 10% above spot.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you just want generic 1 oz silver rounds, they are readily available at 5-6 bucks over spot depending on quantity.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
876 Posts |
IMO, if you think premiums will recede at some point, I must disagree. With online dealers wanting $22 FV for 90% that makes 1 ozt of 90% about $31.00. WTH! Supplies of 90% at all LCS's in my area (Tampa Bay) are dwindling. However, lots of silver Sovereigns @ spot + $7 at my favorite LCS, Bellaire Coins. Premiums will not drop only go higher as supply decreases so get it while you still can. I will only purchase 90% to top off tubes a little at a time. Keep stacking while you can.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is possible to buy physical un assigned silver granules to an exact weight, and not have them delivered. Their security remains to be an obligation of the bullion dealer. That would result in the the lowest premium I can think of, when buying physical silver.
Bullion dealers sometimes use this strategy for themselves, although in this case, the silver remains in safe keeping on the premises of the refiners. Has some characteristics of a forward contract, but the actual ownership of physical silver changes (legal) hands.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've been getting maple leafs as they had a $7 premium over spot. I'm not a stacker so never picked up a lot but my goal is to fill 2 Whitman boxes. I only need a few more but this isn't a race it's a long walk, when I have extra cash I pick up 1 or 2 and BS with the LCS. I look at the premium as my BS cost.
Edited by hfjacinto 10/16/2022 08:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: I'm not a stacker so never picked up a lot but my goal is to fill 2 Whitman boxes. What is a "Whitman box"?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The maple leaf sells for $8 over spot, the eagle for $16 over spot at Kitco. If people want to pay an absurd premium it is their own fault. There are plenty of alternatives when it comes to silver. Clearly many people are prepared to pay a premium for a brand name.
Ironically, the Maple leaf is consistently a better quality item than the eagle, according to the sigma analyzer at my LCS!
Edited by oriole 10/16/2022 12:18 pm
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