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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have seen many types of coin dealers, and in my opinion, Charles you are right to a point, I have had the pleasure of finding one or two of some ( old school ) very knowledgeable people, who do know and care to share the knowledge and help educate other's , like your self, so we do not get taken for a ride from the "other dealers",that said, I do appreciate the effort and sincerity from these people and applaud their commitment to the everyday "Coin Collector" like myself, Many thanks to them and you for the knowledge.......
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It would be interesting to invest a few bucks to purchase a couple of these 'varieties' and compare them via overlay. I would bet the overlays would show differences in position/damage of the last digit.
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Building on that thought.. if it turns out there are noticeable differences, one could take print outs of the overlays to the dealer, and educate him on what he is actually selling. If he is honest, he will understand, and stop selling them as varieties. He may even investigate other things deeper before trying to sell something like that as a variety. One could hope. A dealer is in a position of authority when it comes to coins, whether they warrant that or not. Unfortunately the new and/or uninformed coin buyer trusts them implicitly. Whether this particular dealer knows he is selling damage or if he truly thinks it is a variety, it would be worth it to the hobby in general to show him where he is in error. Anyplace we see simple bad judgement like this, we should say something about it. In the end, truth *might* prevail  |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for the input everyone. I'm going to try to educate this guy when I see him at the next show. I'll try to do it politely, I just hope he doesn't take offense. It probably doesn't matter much to him since he makes money selling them. LOL I just feel bad for unknowing collectors that think these are actual varieties or errors.
Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Valued Member
United States
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Hi. I also see the same type of damage repeatedly on 1960 cents. Where the '"0" is kinda pushed over.
Mike
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Morgans Dad -That's why I always say the 'majority' of dealers are what I describe. not all of them are like that, and I never wanted anyone here to read it that way. There are some good knowledgeable dealers who do a good job to promote the hobby and keep up on their information.
Xshift - bothering with overlays would be a waste of time. It's very clear what caused the problems on these coins, and overlays would be of no use. Overlays, when it comes to micrographs of coins, only help in determining whether two die varieties come from the same die. Since these coins are obviously damage, overlays would prove nothing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Chuck.. sometimes it takes something visual to convince someone they are incorrect in their thinking, and I was hoping an overlay would help with that.. but you are probably right here, as it wouldn't be much 'proof' at all in that manner (or in this context). Ah well.. it's all up to you, Thad  Good luck! Let us know how it goes. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Will do xshift....damage is damage, I'll make the technical point to him but it probably won't matter....he's making money on them. LOL
Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Valued Member
United States
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I have a old variety book, Major Variety and Oddity Guide of United States coins, copyright 1965. It has a 1941, last 1 slanted, listed Index# S255a. The book also has one listed for the Denver and San Fran mints of 1941. Hope this helps. |
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Valued Member
United States
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But then again, maybe my book is just outdated lol.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Oh no, not the Frank Spadone book    That man has probably been responsible for more misinformation through that book than just about anyone else. Burn that book and salt its bones because it is da Debil! (ok, maybe that is a little extreme  just do not take any of the info in that book as fact unless verified by another source) |
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Pillar of the Community
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Biokemist is correct. Almost everything in that book is fiction. The author somehow wrote and published it wihtout any research into how coins actually ARE made.
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United States
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Thanks for the info biokemist and coppercoins. I use it with my other books when looking/researching coins. Guess I can use it for kindling.
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Pillar of the Community
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When I was a kid, I had that Spadone book. I actually got a pretty good education by using that book but the story doesn't stop there....
It worked in reverse. Since much of the book seemed to make little sense, I actually learned a lot by studying various things to prove that the book was incorrect.
As I understood more, I came to see that the book was a guide to what Mr. Spadone was trying to sell and much of it was nonsense.
I remember a few items of interest. One that sticks in my mind would be the "lettered chin" "buffalo" nickel die clashes.
Most of the book however, was filled with minor die chips and minor die cracks.
Things like "skirted R"s in LIBERTY and filled digits of the dates etc.
It's a good book to use under a wobbly table leg:-)
Thanks,
Bill
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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