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Bedrock of the Community
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A long time ago I put up a picture of a 1941 Lincoln Cent where the 1 was slanted about 45°. The consensus was post mint damage. Today at the coin show I found a dealer that had TWO of the exact same 1941 on display. I told the dealer I didn't understand how he could possibly have two of the identical coins to mine! He said "it's a die variety, I sold six of them already over the past few months, all identical." If my coin is indeed post mint damage, how in the world can this guy have two on display and sell six others? There's virtually no way in heck this could happen identically on 9 different coins!  |
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Thad, I found one just like that and thought it was post mint daamage. Figured something hit the 1 just right and clean enough to move it over and make a clean surface. I have everything packed up ready for a move but when I get the time I will try and locate it. Maybe we can compare photos or overlay them.
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Greetings:
Don't know if this helps, but I have this seen this coin listed as a variety (not error) in at least one older error reference book. Never could understand how the mint process produced this one.
Terrell
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Pillar of the Community
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Did you happen to find out how much he was selling these for? I havent seen any myself.
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Bedrock of the Community
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$10 each!  Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Pillar of the Community
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Did he say what happened to the die to cause this? It does look like damage. Different machines are used for thr rolling process and counting machines will do it also. Here's a 64 with the damage I mentioned.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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$10 each!
Hmm...maybe I better go back and look through my wheats. I might have glanced and just assumed it was a 1947...lol |
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Pillar of the Community
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These things commonly occurred in counting and sorting machines. Just because the same style of damage happens frequently does not make it a variety of any sort. Damage is damage.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks Chuck
Why do you think the 1941 is so susceptible to this type of damage? I've never seen it on any other year and all of the coins that dealer sold were 1941.
Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Pillar of the Community
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It's likely because of the exact position of the 1 of the date.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I've seen it on 40's, 51's, 52's, 56's and I'm sure it can be found on others as well. It is NOT a variety.
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Pillar of the Community
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True, but it does seem to be a little more frequent on 1941. I've noticed that myself.
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Pillar of the Community
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I've seen about equally as many on 1940 cents. Some people used to try to sell them as some type pf 1941/40.
It's still damage though. Maybe there are so many because more than 887 million of them were minted and the numeral 1 was so susceptible to this kind of damage.
It does go to show that education can keep people from getting ripped off. It is a shame though that an uninformed dealer is selling them for $10.00 ea.
Thanks,
Bill
Edited by foundinrolls
02/23/2009 5:37 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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It is a shame though that an uninformed dealer is selling them for $10.00 ea.
Which is precisely why I say that a vast majority of dealers don't have a clue what they are doing with regard to vareities and errors, and are generally a very bad resource for identification and pricing of such coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
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But if they know that little about varieties, those are the ones to cherry pick!
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That wasn't my point.
A number of novice cherrypickers ask their local dealers for values and advice. Wrong resource.
Dealers are a good resource to use in finding the valuable coins for normal coin price from their inventory. Most of them don't know or care what you're doing.
I have seen a number of cases where they had a 10 cent coin marked $10 because it was damaged or junk, and would have a $50 doubled die marked 10 cents as a normal coin...happens all the time. Most of them are in the business to turn coins over for profit - most of them don't know much of anything about the coins and their history.
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Posted 02/22/2009 11:12 pm
