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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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So I went to the bank today (which bank? - yes that bank) to get a $2000 bag of two dollar coins to noodle. The teller said yes they had a bag they could give me so I opened my wallet and took out $2000 in $100 notes and handed it over. The teller asked for ID, so I gave them my bank card. "So where did this money come from?" I looked at them blankly "Or do you always walk around with $2000 on you?" I still looked at them blankly thinking well actually a lot of the time I do. I told them I withdrew it from another bank. "Well why didn't you get the coins from them?" I ummed and ahhed muttering something about not getting coins from the same bank you dump them at. He wasn't convinced I wasn't part of some sinister money laundering syndicate but finally he trudged out the back to get my coins. And then after all this he returns with a $2000 bag full of freshly minted 2022 aboriginal elder coins.  I will be getting rolls from the hole in the wall from now on (this branch didn't have a cash exchange machine) Edited by MachinMachinMan 11/09/2022 11:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I think that if a teller asked that I would say "Am I legally required to tell you" or "I won't tell you" or something like that. In Canada all transactions of $10,000 or more are tracked, but as far as I know it is none of the bank's business why you have smaller amounts.
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New Member
Australia
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I've been asked this a few times. It is supposedly for anti-money laundering purposes. I tell them it is for "personal reasons" when they ask the reason.
Edited by PoppyHunter 11/10/2022 08:19 am
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Moderator
 Australia
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Some things to remember.
1. While you might not like it or agree with it, it actually is their business for them to try to find out why you're using the bank's time and money in obtaining large amounts of coin, especially in this post-Pandemic era where very few people use cash and therefore very few businesses actually have a legitimate need to withdraw a thousand $2 coins. So yes, it's a reasonable question for a bank to ask, even if it's not compulsory for you to answer honestly.
2. Honesty is the best policy - don't lie and make up some furphy about it being needed for your kids school P&C for their fete, or some such nonsense.
3. At the same time, never, never tell the bank you're a coin collector and that you're going through these coins to look for rare coins and that you'll be "dumping" them all back into the banking system in the near future, once you've examined each coin individually. That is effectively admitting to them that you are intending to deliberately waste their staff's time and their shareholder's money, for no real valid economic reason. If they find out or even suspect this is your goal, they will attempt to thwart and discourage you. Banks exist to make profits for their shareholders and to provide essential financial services to society. Banks do not exist to supply coin collectors with rare coins - that's what the Mint Shop and the coin dealers are for.
Exactly how you resolve the paradox of obeying both statements 2 and 3 is up to you.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 United States
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Quote: And then after all this he returns with a $2000 bag full of freshly minted 2022 aboriginal elder coins. Adding injury to their insulting accusation. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
1985 Posts |
Quote: it actually is their business for them to try to find out why you're using the bank's time and money in obtaining large amounts of coin This bloke didn't seem concerned about giving me the coins. Things turned weird when I gave him $2000 cash instead of using funds in my account.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1510 Posts |
I would just say I'm using coins on new $2 pokies machine, then walk away with smile while teller has mouth open in disbelief.  
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1510 Posts |
But all in all I use only machine in wall installed by the banks. 
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Valued Member
Australia
129 Posts |
At my local bank most the staff know me and know that I like to collect coins and banknotes. I have had a few questions asked by the staff before over why I do this, and I always answer them honestly. They tell me that the noodling is really disruptive and that it hurts businesses the most, but they don't really tell me they'll restrict my access to the machine.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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all you need to do is not go overboard as most people not using much cash these days which I find sort of odd, I would say rich people are hoarding cash. Definitely not going to my bank to launder 2K at the bank again :D
Quite sure its an APRA that banks need to record 5K international or 10K transactions due to criminal activities (really cause that one guy was able to funnel money to terror group that they had to make it hard), and usually they will ask if it's something they feel is a waste of time just so they can discourage you from costing them money. It's really just peanuts to be honest at the moment I feel that there might be a day even in Australia that they might limit your withdrawals, technical error pfff .
Edited by ryurazu 11/11/2022 6:15 pm
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