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New Member
United States
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So I weighed this coin at 5 gms and it is odd but cool any ideas   #129689;
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Not really cool.... Just beat up and well circulated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3207 Posts |
Your coin looks to match number 3 in the list of Dirty Dozen Damages: 1) discoloration - stains from coffee, or environmental damage from being buried, heated, etc. 2) scrapes over much of the coin - damage from sliding on pavement, a parking lot coin 3) coin bent or edges not round - it has been smashed with a hammer 4) coin blank on all or most of one side - someone sanded it down 5) mirrored lettering - a vise job, a coin squeezed against another in a vise 6) rough, pebbly surfaces - coin that received an acid bath 7) smooth rims, smaller diameter - has been trapped rolling inside a dryer, a " Dryer Coin" 8) clear mounds on coin - glue that has dried transparently 9) small indentations in the shape of the letter D - marks left by the impact of the reeded edge of another coin 10) large blisters - coin exposed to high heat, such as in a campfire 11) shapes, often letters or numbers, not indented or raised - Pareidolia (like animal shapes in a cloud) 12) a circular scrape just inside the rim - " Ring of Death" caused by a coin rolling machine Don't despair! Error coins remain ready to find from circulation, but they are outnumbered by unusual looking coins that merely have been damaged. If you can imagine a way to charge an undamaged coin into one like you see, that's probably exactly what happened to it. Changes to a coin after it leaves the mint's striking chamber are considered post mint damage, or PMD, and have no premium value.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Coingorilla You have shown us four coins that have all been badly damaged. Suggest you do some studying on what an actual error looks like and how coins are minted. A good site for errors is errors-ref.com There are numerous sites on how coins are produced.
Edited by JimmyD 11/13/2022 4:41 pm
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New Member
 United States
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well it come from a bank roll and If this one at 5 gms so why would I not question it an error! so I did research and took it as a possiblity. maybe I will just revise somewhere else as that makes no sense to reject them to damaged along with the rude yet quick judgement that is why I am posting them after exstensive research
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The damage turns it into a cull coin. (just face value) When it back to the mint, it will be sent back to the mint to be cancel and then recycled. Damage is never a plus for a coin. It is had a variety or error, the damage pretty much zeros out any premium for it. Just a spender. 
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Quote: maybe I will just revise somewhere else as that makes no sense to reject them to damaged along with the rude yet quick judgement that is why I am posting them after exstensive research Sorry, but the truth is, if a coin looks like it spent a month in a parking lot, it probably did.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No one was rude to you, if someone refers you to a site that will help you learn how is that rude? There are nice people here they are as expert as it gets and if an answer is quick then it is because they know the answer.
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New Member
 United States
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well thanks for the responses it was in reguards to the comment stating I need to research more, the fact I am here says I needed advise because I exceeded my search to not find a solution. Is this not a site to do such without being plundered for simply asking a question 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As noted by others above, I too am seeing a damaged coin. It didn't leave the striking chamber in that condition. I've searched through many, many, many coins over several decades and have seen similar in all denominations--US and foreign.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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coingorilla, in my 50 years of coin collecting I've come across MANY damaged coins and very very very few actual mint errors. Of coins encountered in circulation, I'll estimate that the rate is 1 actual error per >> 100,000 coins. Damaged coins? Probably 1 per 1000 or worse. Actual mint errors are very rare, while every coin in circulation is subject to the whims of the holder.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Sad thing is 95% of new collectors that come here with "errors" don't have errors. Some leave in a huff because their cousin or someone that collects coins told them it was an error and now they have tunnel vision because cousin Joe "knows what he's doing". The worst thing is that even a lot of brick and mortar dealers don't understand them and will say things are errors that are not.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sorry, just intentional post mint damage. Retains face value only if able to be identified as a coin. 
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: so I did research and took it as a possiblity. I would like to view the site(s) that lead you to this conclusion, please. Would you kindly tell us where you did your research?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yep,  with above thoughts, but I can add this: Assume any coin that does not look as it normally should, be post mint damage of some sort until proven otherwise... Nick10's list is a great summary. Combined experience all telling folk the same approximate thing is to me quite conclusive. I too on random occasions come across a confusing issue on a coin and post it here for better clarification just to make sure, as you have done here!  Keep looking, true and very genuine legitimate errors of all sorts are out there, just practice in identification of the real deals on sites like error-ref.com and elsewhere can point you in the right direction.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Just practice in identification of the real deals on sites like error-ref.com and elsewhere can point you in the right direction. Great advice. Good Luck. Welcome to the Forum. You've come to a phenomenal place to share and learn. Explore and Enjoy!
Edited by chafemasterj 11/15/2022 08:46 am
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