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did you know that the only coin minted by the united states in the year of 1816 was the cent? that means that if you have an 1816 large cent you have the entire type set for 1816. even more interesting is that there are only 9 Newcomb varieties for 1816. there are two R-4s, with everything else being more common than that. since all of them are relatively common you can pick up copies of every variety for under $50 per coin. a complete set of all die varieties of all coins minted by the united states in 1816 can be compiled for under $500. here is my complete set of 1816 united states minted coins: N-1 R-4 Obverse 1 - crumbling at k2 Reverse A - both I's dotted by dentils   N-2 R-1 Obverse 1 - crumbling at k2 Reverse B - recut N in oNe   N-3 R-4 Obverse 1 - crumbling at k2 Reverse C - doubled dentil over the first E   N-4 R-2 Obverse 2 - open mouth Reverse D - the point of the leaf under the F in oF is to the left   N-5 R-3 Obverse 3 - 13th star points to the knob of the 6 Reverse E - the leaf under the D un uniteD is to the left   N-6 R-2 Obverse 4 - double line over liberty Reverse F - the leaf under the D un uniteD is centered   N-7 R-3 Obverse 4 - tip of the 1 is at the tip of the bust Reverse G - leaves under the D in uniteD and second S in stateS are both to the right   N-8 R-3 Obverse 6 - long dentils below the 8 Reverse H - small die chip to the left of the centering dot   N-9 R-3 Obverse 7 - large centering dot near the ear Reverse C - doubled dentil over the first E this coin was owned my Mrs Henry Ford   id love to see your 1816 cents if you are interested in sharing! fun fact about 1816 - it was the first year that you could not fit the entire population of the nations capital into Arrowhead Stadium (where the kc chiefs play football).
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Pillar of the Community
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First off I had no idea the cent was the only coin produced in 1816. Thank you for the attribution/lesson and time spent here.
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 United States
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Very interesting post, nice "Compleat" set you have. John1 
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Appreciate the 1816 coin history lesson.  I enjoyed all your photos. For my Christmas present you can send along the N-2 R1 which appears to be in lovely MS.  I bet that example is more than a $50 coin. edit for spllgening
Edited by nickelsearcher 12/13/2022 05:46 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21786 Posts |
Congrats. A significant and rare accomplishment.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Awesome set! I only own 1 1816 LC but it doesn't attribute  ...
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All nice coins, but I love the deep chocolate color on that last one. Well done @carr!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very interesting and congrats on your collection.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for sharing! Very interesting!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very impressive, thanks for sharing!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Going for a date of birth set, eh?  Beautiful set of cents!
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Fascinating topic and nice examples! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm amazed at the knowledge and dedication required to collect all 1816 "types" while simultaneously knowing when the population of DC exceeded the capacity of Arrowhead stadium.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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thanks everyone. I'm glad you enjoyed it. i do need to correct something I said. the city I was referring to as the nations capitol was Philadelphia. that city was the original capitol city of the USA. its population crossed 75,000 in late 1815. arrowhead has a capacity of ~76k. i was wrong to call philly the capitol in 1816. Washington DC became the capitol in 1800. the population of DC was small enough to fit into arrowhead as late as 1860. nice one kenkat   @ nickelsearcher - that coin looks worse when you get it in hand. I havent been able to take a truly honest picture of that one yet. its been cleaned and recolored. the light plays off it in really strange kinds of ways. its still lovely and I'm very happy to have it but it does have a significant impact on the price point. under $50 will get you into a nice problem free vg-fine range of coins. you could probably track down the whole set for under $100 in cull boxes and junk bins. maybe even under $50 if you bought some really ugly copies. they get up over $1,000 for solid ms coins and over $10k for top pop type stuff. prices paid are 1 - 120, 2- 250, 3, - 225, 4 - 125, 5 - 180, 6 - 25, 7 - 46, 8 - 20, 9 - 125. they were all purchased between 2000 and 2015 except for N-6 which was picked up in 2020.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thank you for the history lessons, Carrs. You are one of the reasons that the Forum is such a great place for numismatic information and education.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm with all the others in thanking you for your valuable contributions to this board OP.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com
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