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1943 LWC With Strong Class VI Reverse

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 Posted 12/18/2022  05:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dowhat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thus one is being difficult to attribute. I have narrowed it down to a few possibilities one being VV DDR-13/ DDO-012. Die markers are scarce due to heavy wear. Maybe slight remnant of clash on obverse from throat to bowtie. Any opinions are appreciated.
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
1943-LWC-With-Strong-Class-VI-Reverse
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The doubling on the obv is too subtle for me to see, but I agree with your diagnosis of a DDR. There is nice thickening on EPU and the dots in between are elongated.
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http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...3PDDR008.htm

Nice find. I believe I have a high grade example of this die.
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Looks to be VV's DDR-006. I can see the clash on the obverse, at the neck, the die crack at the base of the "D" of GOD and maybe the die cracks at the bust but they are hiding well. I can also see on the reverse, the crack from O to N in ONE and the clash inside the "C" of CENT. Most importantly, the shape and direction of the DDR looks spot on. Nice find!

LINK http://www.varietyvista.com/01a%20L...3PDDR006.htm
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Thanks for the feedback all. I think makecents makes sense here. I did suspect the clash at the throat but my old eyes could not quite make out those other markers to clearly. And that doubled eyelid for the DDO-012 is a small one compared to most other doubled eyelids. It had me wondering.
This was in one of the 3 rolls I picked up at my LCS. I usually pick up a few each time I go in for silver to add to the stack. Almost always find a variety or error amongst the lot.
Thanks again ya'll.
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Looks like a nice one. Don't clean it. Better to leave the surface along on these steel cents. Some plate them and ruin them to a collector. They should be dull looking. Tuff call on this one. It may come down to looking at the devices taper on the tops near the rim to tell which has the same tops of the devices. Look at them and see which ones are more or less pointed on the tops of the devices. Also the 'R' looks strange on the right leg. Also keep in mind, it could be a totally different die. So you will probably have to check more than one site to tell. With the coin in hand it is easier to see if it is a match. When you think you have the right one, then look for die scratches that match. You just have to disqualify them, one at a time to tell which ones it is not first. die wear and circulation flattening can alter the coins as well. When you think you have it, then look for die scratches that maybe on both sides of the coin. Then you know you finally found it. (die scratches change as the dies age. locations change, moving closer to the rim, as the die wears. When all the hub doubling matches, then you will have your final choices.
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Lots of good advice Coop. I went thru VV,Coppercoins, and Wexler before posting and narrowed down to about 3 or 4 possibilities. The clashes seem to reduce the choices here. Try as I mat, I could not pick up the cracks for conformation, scratches seem out of the question on this example with my eyes. I will put it away as a definite DDR class VI anyways. That DDO / DDR would be nice though. But I think makescents is on it.
Wish I could provide better images of that eyelid. It does appear as merely a dot above on the DDO-012. Not to be confused with additional anomaly slightly higher and east.
Thanks for your input.
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