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1786 Vermont Baby Head- Grade

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Way over my head - I'll say AU-55, just an amateur stab.
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I know the grade so I'll stay out of this one. But a great example! I remember either hearing from someone, or reading somewhere how you came to own this one, great acquisition!
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Vermont coppers are difficult to grade - primarily weak strikes seem to plague these issues. I would therefore not be surprised that Jack's coin would grade at least AU55 to AU58 and possibly above. Very nice coin!
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I am going with weak strike and luster showing in the fields. MS62
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Great guesses! Ended up as the top POP at NGC and started me down the rabbit hole of Vermonts...

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A large prominent collector of Vermont Coppers stated it was high in the CC but cleaned.
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i had it mid to high AU. first thought was AU55.
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Lovely coin for sure!
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This is as nice of a Vermont copper as I've seen. Congrats to Jack on having such a wonderful specimen in his collection, not many have Vermont coppers half this nice. I was too late to guess the grade but it's in line with where I thought it would be, high AU top of the CC as well.

I went down the Vermont hole after getting a few copies of Q. David Bowers recent book on them, I sold off the books, except a single copy for myself, and made a good profit which I hope to put towards a decent Vermont copper of my own. I'm leaning towards a landscape design.

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It's totally worth getting a copy of this book, if you can find a copy now, it's a fantastic read on their history and variations.

Also there is Tony Carlotto's book on Vermont Coppers, which is a classic, though a lot more costly, it was the first book the Colonial Coin Collector Club published, I also have a copy of that as well, that I won at a K&F Book auction last year. Copies of Bowers book go from $75 to $125 and Tony's book is around $225+ when offered.

Safe to say one needs to be, if not well heeled financially, but save up money for a while to be able to play in the Vermont collecting game. That's what I'm doing.

For other cheaper Vermont research literature is of course Ken Bressett's Vermont Coinage chapter in the A.N.S. 1976 C.O.A.C. book,"Studies on Money in Early America By Eric P. Newman, Richard G. Doty. I've found it online for free and it often comes up on ebay for under $10.00 another great book though a bit dated. I believe it's on the ANS site if you search.
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Thank you for the info westcoin! I have about worn out Dave Bower's book and recently purchased a copy of Tony's. Having sold my large cent collection at EAC St. Louis I began building an NGC registry set around the baby head. Actually #1 to date: https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/co...sets/388746/
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AU-58, super coin.
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Jack, really nice registry set, cool that you got one of Dave's reference coins to boot! Wonderful set I will be keeping an eye on.
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