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Need Help Identifying 1945 D War Nickel, Improper Alloy? Maybe Fake?

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I've had this coin for s roughly 5 years, Lind of always assumed it was a fake.The more I have researched what could be going on with the surface and metal composition the more I am left just scratching my head.

To me it looks nothing like other War Nickels I have, it doesn't sound like a silver War Nickel. You can see it clearly has pimples covering the back mostly with a couple on the front tho not as near as noticeable. I have never seen these types of pimples and marks on other silver nickels.

The biggest confusing thing to me tho is the spots along the rim. You can clearly see a few small spots have popped and broken off revealing another layer of metal under the outer layer. From what I known these silver nickels should be one mixed metal and not anything layered. There shouldn't be any outer layer covering an inner layer.

It doesn't stick to a magnet, it weighed at 4.77 grams when I last weighed it. Idk if that's under the variance level for these coins really either. I'm at a loss as to why it shows a secondary layer among the pimples and doesn't sound like it is silver.

Anyone have any ideas wth is this coins deal?
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Maybe it was painted a silver color?
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War Nickels can turn some stramge colors, to me this one looks within that typical wide range, pics not so overmagnified might help show something else
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With wear, it seems to be within Weight Tolerances. But those "delaminations" or chips are very suspect.
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Looks like a coin with lamination problems. Flacking off after the strike.
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the lams sure look funny. The one over the word LIBERTY, can you still see the lettering where the top layer is missing?
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Wear would account for the weight loss. Looks like a genuine specimen that was scrubbed at some point.



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Unusual toning or discoloration by itself, is a very poor diagnostic for the identification of fake wartime nickels.
The reason being that the genuine alloy is so different.
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There is not lettering above liberty where it peeled off. Just flat discolored surface, shouldn't this coin if silver be solid metal tho with no top later to lam or peel off? Between the layer coming off and it not sounding like a normal silver nickel is what made me suspect it's authenticity.
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Well it's not fake , PMD and harshly cleaned , may have been a defective planchet to begin with .
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Lamination and harsh cleaning would do it.
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These recessed areas don't look like typical laminations. Laminations are usually linear in appearance. The discoloration at the base of the missing metal is odd. it almost looks reddish in color.
An XRF scan might tell you more. Pawn shops or jewelers might have an XRF scanner.

I'm wondering if a planchet from foreign coin production made in 1945 might have made it into the striking chamber.
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I agree they do not look like any lamination I have or really have seen. In hand looping you can see there us a reddish color to the inside metalwhich is what throws me off since from what I've seen this should be a one metal alloy coin with no layers.
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