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1884-CC Morgan Dollar What's The Grade

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 Posted 12/30/2022  12:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shtiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Very tempted to hit the buy button on this. What do think the grade is? Seller saying DMPL and Cameo like. My guess is MS63 PL. Thanks!

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 Posted 12/30/2022  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
62 to 63 PL. The face and the neck seem to have been in a real cat fight!
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 Posted 12/30/2022  12:26 am  Show Profile   Check collector.detector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collector.detector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look like an ms62 PL obverse and ms64 + PL reverse. I'd net to 63PL
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Pretty heavy hits on the cheek, I'd say MS-62. Not convinced both sides make PL based on these pics.
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 Posted 12/30/2022  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This seller actually lists this coin as: 1884-cc Morgan dollar Gem Unc. PL/DMPL MS ++. Ask yourself why would someone sell a $900 - $2000 coin for 384.84 OBO. If you think you are getting a coin even remotely close to his listing you are very naïve and foolish. You keep repeating your behavior and expecting different results
By the way the same seller also has another 1884-cc NGC 61 for sale for $384.84 OBO that he describes as: "Gem MS ++ Cartwheel Blazer Wow". Your thinking is not logical ,analytical or well thought out. These are observations from your posts. Everyone here wants you to get good value for your money and they have given you some good advice. Just slow down. There will always be coins to purchase.
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 Posted 12/30/2022  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shtiv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I absolutely did not think that. I guessed 63 PL, which sell for roughly the price he is asking. He offered $337 which was tempting.
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Keep swinging for the fences as you are never
going to take anyone's advice and will end up
being just another "burned novice collector"
one who spent thousands on coins and too little
on numismatic books and knowledge .
Seen it over and over and over again
in my 45 years of being a coin dealer !
Good luck in your Willy Nelly coin adventures!
Last ever advice ..slow down before
you get eaten alive by the COIN SHARKS .
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It has never been more obvious that the OP is seeking attention just like a child would.

Giving them any sort of response enables this behavior, and this will be my last response to any of their posts no matter how hard they try to garner attention at any and all costs.
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Shtiv,
Congrats on your 100 post . Contest time
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MS-62. Wouldn't get PL based on these pictures
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62 no pl.
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How can anyone say this is PL, based on these pics
MS-62 maybe 63
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I agree, MS-62, not seeing full PL.
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I like the coin and most likely the fields have semi proof like mirrors. The coin should be an attractive example at MS62/63. The price is fair at $337, but do not expect the example to be PL or DMPL. One area of concern is the circle spot on reverse next to lower wing as it could be a cleaned area.

If you are serious about collecting PL or DMPL Morgan's, the mirrors can not be graded properly from still photos. I highly recommend that you do not buy raw coins expecting to get PL and DMPL examples. There is also a learning curve in buying PL and DMPL coins in TPG holders as the standards changed over the years. A lot of collectors of PL and DMPL Morgan's target MS64 and higher because the mirrors highlight the marks on the coin.
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$337 for a raw 62-63 84CC is steep. You can buy an NGC-slabbed 84CC in its GSA OGP graded MS63 for less than $375, and if you get lucky on an auction, less than $300.

Raw 62-maybe 63 with no GSA, I'd put OP's coin around $200-$250 with it in hand if it's not a dog.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad 84CC by any means, just not at $337. I've seen much worse for far more.

PL can be easily faked by contrast and brightness manipulation.
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